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Vinand
28-05-2010, 13:14
Dit interview was oorspronkelijk een interview in het Russisch, Iemand van sherdog had het vertaald en ik vond het wel een interessante post omdat hij uitgebreid ingaat op Bas Boon en alle andere interessante feiten.




Let`s answer accumulated questions. In recent time there were a lot of negative interviews and attacks towards me. I want to answer and dispel some rumors that came along.



Q.: Will Shihshabekov fight for Strikeforce?

A.: He will for sure. In undercard in Strikeforce, there will be 5 fighters from M-1 Selection, from different countries from around the world, and Shihshabekov will represent Russia.
(Magomed Shihshabekov is 21 years old, 167.55 lbs, 11-0-0)




Q.: Do you have plans promoting other Russian fighters in Strikeforce or the UFC?

A.: There is no specific task to get in Strikeforce or the UFC. М-1 was created to help cultivate MMA and to find young talents, and we have a lot of them. I will gladly work with Dream, Astra or the UFC. We are open to work with all organizations. And I think we all have to work together, and not just some organizations like the UFC.



Q.: What are you doing to improve the entertainment value of your shows, like it was in Pride?

A.: It`s hard to compare us with Pride or the UFC. They have certain financial capabilities we don’t have. If we had unlimited financial capabilities, we would make ours show10 times better and prettier. But right now we are incapable doing so, but we are working on it and I think our shows can become better. I can`t say that they are worse and worse- there are mistakes, and I can`t say that everything is ideal. The recent show in Moscow, in my opinion was good. The finals in Saint Petersburg were wonderful. Upcoming shows that will take place in Finland and Ukraine will be on a good level.



Q.: What do you want to achieve with a co-promotion with either the UFC or Strikeforce?

A.: When you do co-promotion as time has shown, you have voting power. But if you just give away your fighter and they give you a contract on 50 pages filled with 1000000 tricks in it, you actually lose rights.

On any given day M-1 is created to cover even Fedor, because right now all contracts are signed with M-1 and not Fedor, and today he is free, and co-promotion organization knows that they cannot point* him what and how he should do. I think on a given day Fedor has a right for his opinion to be listened*. He hasn`t became who he is in UFC or Strikeforce.

On a given day co-promotion is an opportunity to use their potential, let`s say Strikeforce, CBS, Showtime to promote our fighters, to climb on a new level. In a future we want to do our own shows but at this point we just aren`t ready. Today we grow an army of good, talented guys, that are interesting for fans. For example UFC fighters are very advertised*. Our fighters lack only experience and recognition. If they can achieve it in upcoming two years, then any organization will want them and also M-1 will be able to make good, interesting event – in Russia, USA, Europe – anywhere.

So today we are looking for talents and M-1 Selection project is directed only on it.



Q.: Is a Fedor-Barnett fight possible in the future? If it is, then is it possible that this fight will be after Fedor-Werdum fight?

A.: Sure, it`s possible. We really want this fight. I think that Barnett is one of the best and most interesting fighters in MMA. I dream about this fight.



Q.: How Fedor training is going on right now? Is everything good, no injuries?

A.: I`ve just talked with Fedor by phone. He says “It’s hard” and that he runs 9 miles every morning. He trains very hard right now. He prepares for fight like always. He prepares for any fight very seriously. He is ok.



Q.: Is re-opening negotiations with the UFC possible after Fedor’s 3rd Strikeforce fight?

A.: Yes, it`s possible. You know, the press likes to tell fairy tales such as “crazy russians”, and that Fedor`s manager were offered a 30 million contract but they didn’t want to sign it, and so on. I`ve tried to answer Dana White`s and others words, but nobody has posted my answers, but nonsense that comes from Dana White or Bas Boon (Overeem’s manager) is posted with such love. And there`s some anti-Russian sentiment. Why – I cannot understand. If Dana White really wanted Fedor competing in the UFC, he would already be in the UFC. He doesn't really want to. He just makes it visible that he wants Fedor.

Fedor and M-1 are two different things. Fedor does not compete for M-1. M-1 is just trying to organize fights for Fedor with other good fighters. And if these fights will be on UFC's territory, no problem.

Fedor has his own company like Oscar De La Hoya has Golden Boy Promotions. This company was made around Fedor. And our current goal is to create new breed of young fighters, and not to compete with Strikeforce or UFC. We need those companies solely as an apparatus to use them for our fighters to grow and appear on big TV channels, so that viewers recognize them.

So don't make us into monsters, as if we are against certain fights. We REALLY want a fight with Lesnar. We are wishing for it so bad. Fedor wants this fight. But it does not depend on us, or that we are twisting UFC's arm and are demanding a co-promotion. We were ready to agree to other terms, but nobody offers them. They are just making us to be some donkeys, crazy Russians, that we are trying to steal their business.

If we are trying make an offer that gives benefits for both sides – we are crazy!

I tried to answer Dana White's comments many times, about him saying that we demanded to build an academy or other crazy things. I tried to send them all over, Sherdog, and other sites, but nobody would publish them. I understand them. They receive funding from that big monster UFC.

Vinand
28-05-2010, 13:15
Q: Why can't Fedor come to UFC event, and sit in the front row for cameras to show him and talk about him, so that it would be a big PR in America.

A: To fly 11 hours over there, just to go to UFC... I'm not sure. If Dana White invites us, perhaps we will come if we happen to be in America at the time.


But you know that Fedor is not that kind of person. He's not just going to fly 11 hours to America just for a PR stunt. He had a million of such invites for bigger shows than UFC: American Wrestling, Superbowl, front row seats with all the stars, but Fedor didn't go. Because he doesn't need this fame, which he said many times. He's a simple normal man.

Q.: What can you say about Aleksander Emelianenko? It would be great if he would fight in big events like Fedor.

A.: He has his own path. I just don`t know. He has his own manager. It`s difficult to me to answer for him. He has his own site emelyanenko.com, I really respect him, he really is talented fighter, but you have to ask him.


Q.: Is it possible to gain general information about M-1 success? Is it still profitless? What prevents development?

A.: It`s too early to talk about profit. There are many people that are jealous that we have big profit – that we are interested only in money and so on. In fact if I wouldn`t had my other businesses... and I have several restaurants (from example Flying Dutchman), and other small businesses and give me opportunity to live and develop this sport. Today we are far from making profit.

Q.: Why you are putting the business interests of M-1 in front of Fedor`s interests as a sportsman? Fedor has a few years to compete, but he can`t compete because there were no M-1 logo’s allowed. You have stated that you want to organize fights that are interesting for MMA fans. MMA fans from all over the world want to see Fedor! By not letting Fedor compete you are attracting on your company and you personally great amount of criticism and even hate from Russian and foreign fans.(It`s my question )

A.: Partly I`ve answered this question before. They want to take Fedor and throw him into a UFC cage, sign any papers that are given to us and forget about it?

M-1 isn`t put in front if Fedor. Fedor is in front. Fedor and M-1 are two completely different things. Fedor does not compete in M-1 Selection events or other of our events. We are just trying to make a fight. If there was no M-1, there would be no alternative. We would be forced to accept any terms with UFC 3 years ago.

What do the fans want? Do they want Fedor to fights every month and please them? He is human, he needs to prepare. He is fighting as everybody else 2-3 times a year. You have to understand that there were problems with Affliction when our fight with Josh Barnett was canceled.

We are just trying to be as shield for Fedor. We want to do fight with Lesnar. UFC doesn`t want. We offered – let`s make 2-3 fights. No! We have to sign UFC contract on their conditions.

You know, I`m glad that fans do their thing – discuss, blame, condemn.

I would be glad to tell you many things, but I just cannot. In USA you always sign a document that everything is confidential. I think fans have to understand me. In USA they watch it very strictly. It`s just Bas Boon that talks some nonsense (laughs).



Q.: How can I get contract with M-1?

A.: We have information on our site. You can send us your curriculum vitae, which fights do you have, which techniques do you know. And we`ll answer you.

Also you can be tested in Saint Petersburg, in our club.



Q.: Will we see veteran M-1 fighters like Amar Suloev fight?

A.: Amar Suloev really wanted to fight on a show in Saint-Petersburg, he even arrived here, but he has problems with his back, he has injury – it prevents him from competing. I don`t know will he be able to compete, but I will gladly make fight for him if he will. This applies all other veteran fighters.



Q.: Fedor-Lesnar Fight. Is this fight possible even if theoretically?

A.: Sure, it`s possible. We want this fight. If I were a fan I would turn on Dana White. If Dana fight wanted this fight would happen long ago. They don`t want it, they don`t want to risk their name. They want Fedor to enter that cage and hand big barn lock behind him, so that he would never walk away from it. But Fedor deserves special treatment, that`s all. He is ready to enter it, but he has to possess the ability to walk away if he wants.



Q.: Do you watch UFC?

A.: I can`t say that I watch all UFC events. But some I watch fights that interest me. Why not? Sure.



Q.: Why, was a new fighter like Brock Lesnar paid 3 million dollars for his last fight in the UFC, plus numerous sponsor contracts, but Fedor for his fight in Affliction was paid only 300k$? It`s 10 times less.

A.: Brock Lesnar was paid 400k for that fight. That was his salary. What he has gained from sponsors is confidential information. What is posted on the internet – 3 millions is the same as Dana White offered us 30 millions. It`s just rumors. Of course he was paid. Maybe even 3 millions. But believe me – journalists don`t know about it. This is his personal information.

As Fedor`s manager I can say that he receives good money, but it`s the same as with Lesnar – confidential information.

Believe me, if Fedor wasn`t happy with something he would long ago said to me: “Listen Vadim, go where you want, but I will go to UFC.”

But as for Lesnar. Fedor will never sell same amount of PPV`s. For it to be possible Fedor has to live in US, attend shows, be scandalous and so on.

Vinand
28-05-2010, 13:16
Q.: Bas Boon accused you for tax evasion in USA.

A.: And why do I have to pay taxes in USA? Let`s understand this. Bas Boon accused me for other things. I accused him myself. According to this question there is living witness. It`s Andrei Semenov and I want to ask you to take interview from him according exactly to this question.

Our story with Bas Boon started somewhere in 97-98s. All that he did – 2 times gave me 2 fighters for my 2nd and 3rd show in Saint Petersburg. For free. He paid their salaries – maybe 500 or 1000$. Everything else was paid by me – tickets, hotels. Bas Boon got rights to show these events all around the world.

He also sold these rights to Russian channel “Boyets” (rus. – “Fighter”), but I was so happy that local channel bought our event so I didn`t do anything , although Bas Boon had no right to do it.

He has seen how we are developing in Russia, and that there appeared some interesting fighters like Amar Suloev,Andrei-Semenov. He came to me and said that he has a lot of connections in UFC, K-1, Pride and that he can get contracts for my fighters. He offered me to sign a contract that he can offer my fighters to these organizations. I`ve signed contract with him, that said that he will receive 10% for it.

In those days he worked with UFC. As you understand now UFC doesn`t work with Bas Boon and there`s story about it, but I don`t want to become he and write open letters.

2001 year. Andrei Semenov and Amar Suloev signed 3 fighter contracts with UFC. There were pretty good money . As the time has passed I can announce – 17000$ for a fight, plus bonus of same amount. Bas Boon announced to us – in USA these money are with taxes, so we`ll have to pay them, and as we were inexperienced, without language skills – we weren`t aware. We just were really happy that we go to such a big event. UFC already were a name. We arrived in USA. Andrei Semenov won, Amar Suloev lost – to Chuck Liddell.
We are going down to casino and receive our salary in cash. Andrei Semenov 34000$, Amar Suloev 17000$.
Bas Boon says: “Now give me 30% - taxes”.
What can we do, we are giving him 30% in cash. Then we give him another 10%, that he deserves according to contract. Happy Bas Boon departs with a pack of money – about 20000$.

I`ve started to think that something isn`t right. After I left USA, I hired translators and started to interconnect* with UFC, tried to learn truth. And I`ve received an answer:
“Guys, are you crazy? We gave you your money, that`s your money. You don`t have to pay any taxes.”

I`ve arrived to Bas Boon`s office – and said to him: “What a schmuck you are” - and break all relationships with him. That was 2001. That was first time when Bas Boon deceived us. Maybe he will show a document that he paid taxes in US? Or he became tax cash of USA?

He has stole our money. Just stole!

After that I had no business with Bas Boon for two years. I started to work with Fedor.

Bas Boon is calling me :“Talk with Fedor, there`s chic offer to fight for Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye. But you know… I can`t do it by myself, because I work with Pride, I have fighters Heath Herring, Sammy Schilt that fight for Pride and I can`t.. You understand..
I will give you a man that will receive percents – it`s Miro Mijatovic – you will pay 15% for this deal."

I say – okay, good. They offered good money. Bas Boon with Mijatovic flied there – in Saint Petersburg, Fedor also arrived. We sat down, signed a contract for 5 or 6 fights, and signed another contract that we will pay Mijatovic 15%.

We announced it on our event. We even have video where Fedor signs a contract.

We left Pride, but according to Fedor`s contract he had 2 fights left in Pride, but he had no responsibility according to it`s terms.

So Fedor fights on that event, after what by the way I discover that Bas Boon were co-promoting this event (he was shady co-promoter) – he wanted to earn money for this New year event.

After that arrived some Japanese from Pride, that Bas Boon calls yakuza . I`m first time in Japan – how do I know who yakuza are and how they look like? And I don`t know it even now.

Miro Mijatovic has ran to me with shaking hands:
“Let`s go to the negotiations, people from Pride arrived”.
I completely calm go to negotiations because we haven`t cheated anybody. I`m Fedor`s new manager – according to Fedor`s contract with Pride, and our contract with him we haven`t break anything.

There were sitting a lot of people and they said something like:
"What the hell, we have 2 more fights by the contract."
I pulled my contract, they pulled their – we have 2 absolutely different contracts. Fedor`s former manager (Pogodin) substituted these contracts! In actual contract everything was owned by Pogodin, but all risks were also on him. When people from Pride saw that there`s no Fedor signature on actual contract, and our contract is completely different, but there`s signature of Sakakibara (but that wasn`t his signature) they understood that there`s something shady.

They had no choice but to try to make new agreement.


Nothing really changed because of this, just a little of history. We made a deal for 3 or 4 fights. We started our normal work, Fedor was back to Pride. But Inoki was no more. Somebody cheated, haven`t paid 200k$, 300k$.. Honestly I`m not a fan of gossips to study this, I`m sorry, crap.

We worked normally – worked 3 or 4 fights – Fedor won all of them. I come to Sakakibara and say that we have to review our terms and that has to be this sum. He answers that he can`t pay that much because he has to pay to Miro Mijatovic.

I say:
- "Stop, stop, stop. Miro Mijatovic? Miro Mijatovic introduces as our lawyer and we pay him 15% from our fee".

Sakakibara says:
- "I also paid him 15% all the time.."

That was that Bas Boon again! This a meanest person that I ever met.

I was in shock. I called Bas Boon and Miro Mijatovic again . And told about everything to Sakakibara, I never do it behind one`s back.

And ended all relationships with Bas Boon. I don`t have any relationships with Bas Boon. If Bas Boon had something against me he could go to the court. Re writes – pretends on this, pretends on that – that he made one fight, another fight. He made something, but wasn`t making it without lucre, he gained money for it. And all that I owed him according to our contracts – I paid him.

But when I discovered that he has stole our money again – that was 2003. All our relationships ended.

That was according to mafia, yakuza and taxes in US.

What charges were moreover?



Q.: Refused contract from K-1

A.: This is complete nonsense. And the speech is about millions again? Bas Boon has no idea about our negotiations on income from that moment when we break with him – in 2003. This information is closed for him.

How can I always be with Fedor on all events, always doing all negotiations together and refuse some gigantic offers? This sounds like ravings of a madman.

Do you think if there really was some real offer from K-1 they would go to Bas Boon to make a deal when they are very familiar with me, Apy, Fedor? I know Onigawa, I know Ishii. I know everybody in K-1, Dream, Pride.

Japanese are people that don`t want to work with mediators, they always try to make a deal directly and Bas Boon`s participation isn`t needed.

Vinand
28-05-2010, 13:17
Q.: In your short answer to Bas Boon was that you called him crazy and all his words nonsense. However today Simon Rutz, executive on Showtime, indirectly confirmed Bas Boon`s word according Apy Echteld: I will never work with Apy. Few years ago he hired a killer to kill a man that I know very closely. Apy is a bad example for sport and I hope that soon he will be in jail. Showtime will only work with M-1 but never with M-1. Do you consider Simon Rutz crazy too?

A.: No. Crazy – is how they call him in Holland. I think Bas Boon and Simon Rutz aren`t very close friends – search the internet.

What can I say about Apy. That sounds like a gangster stories, when 2 kids sit in and tell each other – "You, you! I will kill you now! I will call a killer and he will murder you. I will make your photo now. That`s it! You are dead!"
It’s so childish.

If it`s like they say – they need to contact police and they will handle this situation right?

I have a lot of respect to Simon Rutz. But I’ve known Apy for 15 years. I know that 8 or even 10 years they don`t work together. Last time when they worked together was To Hot To Handle, and it war 2002-2003. After that they don`t work together.

What can I say? They just had a fallen out - just for some things. There`s always some problems when you do business and somebody isn`t satisfied with something.

I don`t see a reason to discuss things that were so long ago.

I would like to ask a question: why Bas Boon so do it when that was 6,8,10 years ago?

I`ll answer: He hypes himself and his fighter. He wants to make Fedor fight Overeem. And he wants to make big money on this fight.

I`ll repeat it – we are not against this fight. Alistair is a great fighter, but he isn`t ready for American market, he just needs to have few fights there (interview was before Heavy Artillery). Nobody is against this fighter. But Bas Boon just jumps the gun.

He just wrote this nonsense and the whole world is talking about Bas Boon, about Overeem. That is a purpose why he does that.



Q: Does Fedor has plans to fight for Strikeforce belt? If yes, why was Werdum chosen as the next opponent?

A: When we were planning first Affliction show came to idea – let`s make Fedor`s fight a title fight. М-1, Strikeforce, and some other organizations entered that alliance – WAMMA. This title neutral, it doesn`t belong to any organization. Of course UFC hasn`t joined it.

We have 2 fights left with Strikeforce. What will happen if Fedor wins these 2 fights – he lefts with a title? We think that Fedor doesn`t need to fight for a title at this point. They have their own contenders. If after our contract ends we will continue our relationship we will think about a title then.

Q: What about showing your events on Eurosport (one of the biggest European sport channels)? Is there a chance that they will appear on some other channels?

A: We are close to making a deal with Eurosport. There`s just one problem. In France, and Eurosport is French channel, MMA is illegal.

That`s why we made an agreement with Eurosport2 (HD channel) – starting with October-November they will take our 8 shows. Eurosport is available in ~50 countries. Our shows will be shown everywhere, except France. For France it will be closed. Our shows will be shown about 8 weeks and then we will see ratings and our perspective.

Right now Extreme channel is streaming our shows (Extreme is available in ~40 countries). They will show all 2008 and 2009 “Challenges”.

We are also negotiating with Sport2 channel.



Q: Do you think that, unknown for American viewers, fighters from M-1 will affect Showtime or CBS ratings?

A: But why all fighters have to be necessarily from US? We can take 5 American and 5 other fighters. We have remarkable fighters from Russia, America, Europe. Why not to give them chance?

I don`t think this will affect rating. The highest rating depends on main card fights. Rating will depend on fighters with name, like Fedor, Mousasi and others.



Q: Will Fedor hold a seminar in my town?

A: It`s very difficult to do it now. Fedor is an active fighter, he has family, he has other personal doings. In USA, Canada, France, Korea people want Fedor to come with a seminar. I think when he will end his career will spend more time on it. He really wants to do it, but he is active sportsman, he has to train and it takes a lot of energy and time.

Q: Why Fedor fights so rarely? Two times a year is not enough. In Pride times Fedor fought 5 times a year. I think Fedor by himself would like to fight more..

A: You known in Pride times Fedor was younger. Normal contract with Pride always meant 3 fights a year. With exception if there was a tournament – then they fought every 2 month and he was in this bracket.

Fedor fights as everybody else. If there were no cancellations and barriers from competitors that doesn`t give us to make fights.

And these postponements with Strikeforce. You have to understand – we have to defend our interests. We can`t just because fans want this particular fight right now, forget about anything, accept any conditions etc.

For Fedor it`s normal to fight 3 times a year.

I think Fedor deserves that it`s enough for him – 3 times a year. He needs 2-3 month to recover from a fight and 2-3 month to prepare for a new fight. If fans want to see Fedor in shape that he always fights, they need to give him time to prepare.

Q: Mousasi has left M-1. It`s interesting to hear your comments.

A: Mousasi has never been in M-1. He fought in a couple of events. M-1 was home for him. We are not making fights for Mousasi. Today we grow fighters such as Mousasi. Recently I`ve with Apy and he said that Mousasi called him and he wants to meet Apy and me. I think he wants to come back. He understands that M-1 made a lot for him and understands that it`s better to be with us than alone.



Q: Explain a subject of a long negotiations with Strikeforce. The problem that your logo were shown too rarely is funny.

A: Unfortunately I can`t tell you, because we all signed a papers that all information is confidential.

There were many problems with Strikeforce. With many things, not just our logo.

It was easier for us to pay for ads – the big circle in a center of a ring where energy drink is placed right now. Pay 100k$ and it`s done.

We are in co-promotion, our fighters have to be there.. If we made a deal, then conditions that are in it have to be performed*.

All the problems were that that some condition that were offered to us in a beginning wasn`t performed.

Everybody talks like we are the problem. We aren`t a problem. We are not asking something more, additional, more money or something else. We just want them to do what was written in contract in the beginning.



Q: Why not to change a format and do events in a cage like in old times? I think M-1 fans would like it.

A: I`m not against a cage, I always held events in a cage in the past. But we are positioning ourselves as a sport. In European countries cage is not recognized. Eurosport will never show events in cage. We also changed our format to ring because it`s easier to film, and it`s more comfortable for audience to watch. It`s not excluded that we will hold events in a cage. If American fans want us to hold an event in a cage we will do it. Fedor already competes in a cage.

But I think that most important are fighters, and not is it in a ring or is it in a cage.

Q: Who will participate in Fedor`s training for fight against Werdum?

A: Fedor right now has good team to prepare for a fight. Plus Pawel Nastula expressed desire to help Fedor prepare for fight and to gain experience for himself. Soon there will arrive two trainers from Holland to help with technique, to have sparring.

Vinand
28-05-2010, 13:17
have fun reading :lol::lol::lol::lol:

YoMarK
28-05-2010, 14:39
Ok, leuk verhaal.

Enige nieuws wat ik wel interessant vind is dat er dus MMA op eurosport2 in HD gaat komen. Cool!

Harrie Nak
30-05-2010, 14:00
Voor de liefhebbers, hij leest op Sherdog (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f61/very-big-vadim-finkelstein-interview-ufc-strikeforce-overeem-fedor-more-1219509/) zelf wat gemakkelijker weg (i.v.m. kleuren enzo). ;)

anoniem gg
30-05-2010, 16:48
Vadim: We are going down to the casino to receive our salary in cash. Andrei Semenov 34000$, Amar Suloev 17000$.
Bas Boon says: “Now give me 30% - taxes”.
What can we do, we are giving him 30% in cash. Then we give him another 10%, that he deserves according to the contract. Happy Bas Boon departs with a pack of money – about 20000$.

Bas Boon: And the lies continue.
Bas Boon was the person who got Amar and Semenov 30 to 40x more money then they got from wannabe promoter Mr Flamboyant the nail Vadim.
I never came to Vadim for any of the payments, but I arranged all these payments with Appy (who was there when we got paid from the casino, which was highly unusual).
The Russians did not have a bank account and did not want to receive the money by wire transfer because of taxes.
They knew 30% was to be paid for taxes as a foreign fighter in the USA must pay taxes.
When I received the money from UFC, Appy was there with me.
I said well I have a company and I could get some tax benefits thorugh this company so we can divided the money (30% extra), 10% for the fighters, 10% for management and 10% for me.
Everybody received more money, no problem, you would think?
Later indeed Vadim came to my office in Holland with Appy and Marc de Weerd. He confronted me with his story. What Appy did not know is that I had sent documents to Vadim for the Russians because they needed this (some paper record for taxes). The terms were in the UFC contract regarding payments and taxes and the papers were all very clear. Then I realized that Appy never gave any money to Vadim or the fighters of this 30% tax money.
I had a receipt from this (that I paid Appy), so that is why Vadim continue to do business with me at that time, why he continued with Appy after that is a very big question to me. Why he now lies again about this is also strange, Appy must hold something over him. By the way, why are you so concerned all these years how much money Bas Boon made, according your own words you "gave away' all your rights for only $500.- / $1000.- to me (your such a "sweet and nice men" the nail, by the way why complain about rights (sold by me to a russian tv station) if you give them away practicly for nothing in the first place (those are your words)?). According to Mr Flamboyant the nail he never made a profit all these years and the biggest money making machine was produced by me, brought from Pogodin to Vadim (Vadim you were only a translator with nothing to offer.

Vadim: Our story with Bas Boon started somewhere in 97-98. All that he did was – 2 times gave me 2 fighters for my 2nd and 3 rd show in Saint Petersburg. For free. He paid their salaries – maybe 500 or 1000 $. Everything else was paid by me – tickets, hotels. Bas Boon got rights to show these events all around the world.

Bas Boon: Another lie, I paid for some fighters who were fighting for 2500 $.- per fight as well as 10 to 20 flight tickets, that's why Vadim signed an agreement with me that all rights (including Russia) were on my company Nikko Toshogu Press BV.
Later I found out that some of the shows, all tickets (including the ref and judges) were paid for on my credit card ( 6 to 7 k per event only in flights) Appy Echteld also asked for flight money from Vadim and pocketed the money.

When I later did a deal with a Russian TV station with the footage there were no problems as those rights were all mine. It said in the contract with the Russian TV company that M-1 was authorized to make free publicity during the broadcastings, Vadim knew about it. The reason he did not make any law suite is that Vadim knows I have a signed contract (signed by Vadim) where it says, I have all the rights including Russia. I also gave Vadim a lot of other taped shows which I had the rights for - to make publicity and broadcast on Russian Tv, but I guess he forgets all those things.

Vadim: Sakakibara says:
- "I also paid him 15% all the time.."
That was that Bas Boon again! This the meanest person that I ever met.
I was in shock. I called Bas Boon and Miro Mijatovic again . And told everything to Sakakibara, I never did anything behind one`s back.
And ended all relationships with Bas Boon. I don`t have any relationships with Bas Boon. If Bas Boon had something against me he could go to the court. Re writes – pretends on this, pretends on that – that he made one fight, another fight. He made something, but wasn`t making it without lucre, he gained money for it. And all that I owed him according to our contracts – I paid him.

The meanest person I ever met, hahahahahahaha
Vadim, I was the one he got deceived.
I can not go to court as all contracts were on Mijatovic and not my name, so how can I go to court? The reason I was not mentioned in the contract I explained many times. G.G had many fighters with pride and it would cause a lot of problems (for G.G to take the Pride champion and put him in another show). Please spare me your bullshit that you did not know about all tensions, yakuza, press conferences and threats. I not only personally informed you about all this, I was the one who said the contract with Fedor with Pride was worthless as he did not sign himself. The "trustful" Sakakibara who worked for the yakuza waved even in a press conference with a false made documents where they claimed Fedor signed with them, you knew it, the press knew it , the world knew it, you were even very angry about that at that time, how could they make a false signature was your comment.
I did not know anything about what Sakakibara had claimed that I was informed by a screaming Appy on NYE 2004 that Sakakibara told them Mijatovic received an extra payment for his services for Fedor (without proof). Mijatovic claimed that it was for other services (he was the former manager of Cro Cop). I told everybody to stay calm and stay together. I told Appy, believe me it is Sakakibara who wants us to get problems with each other, we did not want to sign a two year deal with Pride for 4 fights per year with Fedor, but we wanted fight per fight. That was the reason for Sakakibara to cause trouble. I have seen the transfers because I wanted to know more as G.G advanced all payments for G.G fighters as the promoter Kawamata left the country with all the money from NTV.
At the end Mijatovic still owes me money as well as Kawamata, but Fedor the Russians and Vadim all got paid.

Vadim: A.: This is complete nonsense. And the speech is about millions again? Bas Boon has no idea about our negotiations on income from that moment when we break with him – in 2003. This information is closed for him.
How can I always be with Fedor on all events, always doing all negotiations together and refuse some gigantic offers? This sounds like ravings of a madman.
Do you think if there really was some real offer from K-1 they would go to Bas Boon to make a deal when they are very familiar with me, Apy, Fedor? I know Onigawa, I know Ishii. I know everybody in K-1, Dream, Pride.
Japanese are people that don`t want to work with mediators, they always try to make a deal directly and Bas Boon`s participation isn`t needed.

Bas Boon I produced proof of this, so Vadim you can lie as much as you like, I did gave this offer in Las Vegas to Appy and you. We were already talking about other business (as I explained to both of you I was the one who lost the most money on NYE, they lost nothing) and you were aware of me being good with K-1 to get a good offer. I told you not to go with that offer to the UFC and that with accepting this offer all old problems would be solved and we could start working together.
But you guys were greedy and now you act if you nose is bleeding and you don't know of this offer?
I have the official document to prove this, signed by Tanigawa. This was given by me through Mr Teraguchi, I produced the proof by sending it to Headkicklegend website and a Russian website.

I also never co-promoted any event in my life???? Did it say in the ring Bas Boon and Inoki Bombaye promotions???? Like you put your M-1 logo on big shows and call it co-promoting?? What is going on in the fantasy head of Mr Flamboyant the nail Vadim?

Vinand
Q.: In your short answer to Bas Boon was that you called him crazy and all his words nonsense. However today Simon Rutz, executive on Showtime, indirectly confirmed Bas Boon`s word according Apy Echteld: I will never work with Apy. Few years ago he hired a killer to kill a man that I know very closely. Apy is a bad example for sport and I hope that soon he will be in jail. Showtime will only work with M-1 but never with M-1. Do you consider Simon Rutz crazy too?
A.: No. Crazy – is how they call him in Holland. I think Bas Boon and Simon Rutz aren`t very close friends – search the internet.
What can I say about Apy. That sounds like a gangster stories, when 2 kids sit in and tell each other – "You, you! I will kill you now! I will call a killer and he will murder you. I will make your photo now. That`s it! You are dead!"
It’s so childish.
If it`s like they say – they need to contact police and they will handle this situation right?

Bas Boon: I always forget that Vadim is the only business man promoter Mr serious and that we are all childish and act like children. Funny thing is that in an earlier interview from Mr. Flamboyant the nail Vadim denied ever knowing about Appy hiring killers and Appy talked about Russian's to do this. No, Mr. Flamboyant the nail Vadim says because another big promoter confirms Bas Boon's "story" he confirms that it sounds like kids again it was all childish??? This Mr Flamboyant the nail is unbelievable Appy and Vadim the two biggest liars in the fighting industry, already caught lying on tape both of them.
Appy's sister has a function in the justice department and he is pointed out by many people as an informant for the police, this is probably the only reason he still walks free as The European Fighting network did go to the police with the "childish" threats.
The biggest laugh in the whole interview is that Mr Flamboayant the nail is doing all this for charity, he never made a profit? Well we know your percentage you made on fedor and we know for sure he got 900K for his last two pride fights, that's means 180K for those two fights alone. Then we are not talking about the loss of the Ahoy show, the disaster where Sakakibara had to pay for, so the two loosing wannabe promoters liars, would keep Fedor fighting for Pride and not go to K-1. That's how they used the legit offer from K-1 for Fedor, which I already proved exists!
Who is Vadim to say that Alistair needs a few more fights in the USA, who is he to say that? Alistair already fought for the third time successfully in the States and he successfully defended his strikeforce heavyweight title against Brett Rogers who actually gave Fedor a lot of trouble. So fedor fights against Rogers and the guy who destroys Rogers needs a few more fights?
M-1 circus, Vadim and Appy are clowns forever.
Love and Peace