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Slome

31-08-2010, 01:20

UFC Fight Night: Marquardt vs. Palhares

is an upcoming mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship on September 15, 2010 at the Frank Erwin Center in Austin, Texas.

The event will precede the season premiere of The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/UFC_now_FP.jpg

Official fight card
Main card

Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Nate Marquardt vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Rousimar Palhares
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Flag_of_Mexico.svg/22px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png Efrain Escudero vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Charles Oliveira
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jim Miller vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Gleison Tibau
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png Ross Pearson vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Cole Miller
Preliminary card

Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jared Hamman vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Kyle Kingsbury
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Flag_of_Poland.svg/22px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png Tomasz Drwal vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Dave Branch
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Rich Attonito vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Rafael Natal
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Anthony Waldburger vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png David Mitchell
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Brian Foster vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Forrest Petz
Announced matchups

Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Flag_of_the_Bahamas.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_Bahamas.svg.png Yves Edwards vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png John Gunderson

Petrosyan188

31-08-2010, 07:50

mooie kans voor palhares wat ik echt een topper vind maar nate is denk ik(hoop ik ook) net een maatje te groot voor hem, letterlijk en figuurlijk overigens

GilbertYvelFan24

31-08-2010, 21:59

Ik kijk uit naar de partij van Jim Miller :D

Zie hem graag vechten.

Briant

31-08-2010, 22:26

Cole Miller ook een relaxte vechter, wordt een makkie voor hem denk ik.

ICON

01-09-2010, 11:33

ben ook wel benieuwd hoe rafel nadal het naast het tennis in de octagon doet, zou hij zn racket mee mogen nemen?

Tony

01-09-2010, 11:40

Marquardt heeft een flink lengte en standup voorsprong op Palhares.. Ik hoop echt dat Palhares kei kei keihard geKO'ed wordt... Ik moet hem niet meer sinds zijn laatste aktie toen ie die beenklem extra aantrok aan het einde nadat zijn tegenstander al lang afgeklopt had.

gymalkmaar1

01-09-2010, 19:26

Slome

07-09-2010, 13:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHsmYIutayU&feature=player_embedded

Slome

14-09-2010, 01:14

morgen is het zover:

Matchups:

Nate Marquardt (No. 4 MW) vs. Rousimar Palhares
Efrain Escudero vs. Charles Oliveira
Jim Miller vs. Gleison Tibau
Cole Miller vs. Ross Pearson
Yves Edwards vs. John Gunderson
Jared Hamman vs. Kyle Kingsbury
Rich Attonito vs. Rafael Natal
David Mitchell vs. Anthony Waldburger
Brian Foster vs. Forrest Petz
Tomasz Drwal vs. Dave Branch

Slome

14-09-2010, 02:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OubycIfk3F0&feature=player_embedded

Tony

14-09-2010, 09:08

foda se! vai toquinho!!
toqo is een beest,hoop echt zwaar op een dikke winst voor hem.

toqo hield die sub vast tot de ref ertussen kwam niets fout gedaan.
yvel vs rizzo hetzelfde...scheids veel te laat..rizzo zwaar ko,niet huilen de ref maakte een fout!

Tegenstander schreeuwde het al uit van de pijn. klopte al af.. scheids kwam ertussen en toen trok palhares hem nog eens extra aan.

smerig ventje die palhares... heel smerig. En dit was overigens al de zoveelste keer dat ie zoiets flikt. Van mij mag ie zo hard klappen krijgen van marquardt dat ie uit zichzelf weggaat bij de ufc en bij RTL 4 gaat solliciteren voor een rol in camping life.

dirk5

14-09-2010, 09:29

Tegenstander schreeuwde het al uit van de pijn. klopte al af.. scheids kwam ertussen en toen trok palhares hem nog eens extra aan.

smerig ventje die palhares... heel smerig. En dit was overigens al de zoveelste keer dat ie zoiets flikt. Van mij mag ie zo hard klappen krijgen van marquardt dat ie uit zichzelf weggaat bij de ufc en bij RTL 4 gaat solliciteren voor een rol in camping life.

agreed, hij staat bekend om deze rare dingen....

If you're a UFC fighter who competes every four months, a 90-day suspension is a fairly empty gesture. Still, we have to give some props to the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board for making it officially known that holding onto a submission after the referee has stopped the fight is, at the very least, frowned upon. So why did they decide to make an example out of Rousimar Palhares, following his heel hook of Tomasz Drwal at UFC 111? Turns out, holding onto subs well past the point of necessity is a bad habit for "Toquinho":

“When a referee’s in there pulling three times and the other fighter’s tapping…I think everybody knows, regardless of language issues or anything, at that point the referee’s trying to stop the fight,” [NJSACB counsel Nick] Lembo told Sherdog.com on Monday..."A referee should not have to use that much force to release a heel (hook)," Lembo wrote...

Lembo said Palhares’ past adherence to [holding submissions to eliminate any dispute that the other fighter tapped] is part of what led to his decision. He reviewed Palhares’ submissions of Helio Dipp and Flavio Luiz Moura in Brazil in 2007 before Saturday’s fight and thought those holds were held too long as well. “If you watch those two fights, that concerned me,” Lembo said. “He’s very, very slow after the referee physically intervenes, as in this case. I think Palhares in an outstanding fighter with an outstanding future. Maybe this will send a message that his camp can discuss this with him and maybe alter it a little bit.”

For reference, here's the other fight that Lembo mentioned, Palhares's heel-hook win over Flavio Luiz Moura in August 2007. It's a little more subtle than the Dipp ending, but if you watch closely you can see Palhares give the leglock one extra torque after the ref jumps in, perhaps in retaliation for the footstomps that came directly before it:

After the suspension came down, Palhares's manager Alex Davis explained, "When Rousimar catches a position, he wants to make sure he holds on to it, that’s the main thing. It was the very first minute of the fight, that’s when the adrenaline’s pumping and you know what, a fighter isn’t really all there. The adrenaline is not making him think right. He’s closing his eyes and he wants to finish.” So...

Point: "Temporary insanity" is a ridiculous argument. As a professional fighter, you need to have the maturity to stop doing damage to your opponent after the fight has been stopped. There's clearly something wrong with this Palhares guy.

Counter-point: Punishment for this sort of thing is woefully subjective. There are no standard penalties for holding onto submissions after an official stoppage — the length of the suspension that Palhares caught in New Jersey was fairly arbitrary, and only came about because Lembo & Co. were informed enough to know of Palhares's past transgressions. Plus, the rule is enforced sporadically, and only in the most flagrant of cases. (See: Renato Sobral being cut by the UFC after failing to release his choke against David Heath at UFC 74.) So how is a fighter supposed to know when he's gone too far?

I've been thinking about this since John Howard teed off on a clearly-unconscious Daniel Roberts at UFC on Versus. Sure, we can chastise Palhares and Howard for not having more consideration for their opponents' health. But until the UFC's fighters get an official message saying, for example, "You will be suspended for six months and fined $25,000 if you fail to release a submission hold after you've been ordered to, or continue to punch an opponent after he's been rendered unconscious," I don't think all the blame can be placed on the fighters. The consequences for intentionally injuring your opponent after a fight is stopped must be defined and enforced, and right now, it all seems to be a matter of opinion.

WAR NATE!!!

Mule-Kick

14-09-2010, 14:03

Geen geweldige card, maar zeker niet onaardig. Zeker niet voor een doordeweekse UFC/MMA fix :P
War Nate en Jim Miller

Fasada

14-09-2010, 14:05

Helemaal mee eens toen ik zag wat die Palhares deed bij Drwal kreeg ik echt moordneigingen wat een teringleijer...

Als ik daarna lees dat hij dit vaker doet dan moet je zo'n gast gewoon ontslaan, ik vond het zelfs erger wat Babulu deed tegen die gast want dat was te verwachten door wat er gebeurde op de weging plus dat een choke minder is dan een gescheurde knieband!!

lopez86

14-09-2010, 14:56

Sendur

14-09-2010, 16:57

Main card

Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Nate Marquardt vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Rousimar Palhares
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Flag_of_Mexico.svg/22px-Flag_of_Mexico.svg.png Efrain Escudero vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Charles Oliveira
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jim Miller vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Gleison Tibau
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/22px-Flag_of_England.svg.png Ross Pearson vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Cole Miller
Preliminary card

Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jared Hamman vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Kyle Kingsbury
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Flag_of_Poland.svg/22px-Flag_of_Poland.svg.png Tomasz Drwal vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Dave Branch
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Rich Attonito vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Rafael Natal
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Anthony Waldburger vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png David Mitchell
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Brian Foster vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Forrest Petz
Announced matchups

Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Flag_of_the_Bahamas.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_Bahamas.svg.png Yves Edwards vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png John Gunderson

kooivechter

14-09-2010, 19:27

x2.
Hoop dat Palhares een stevig pak rammel krijgt van Marquardt, al vrees ik dat Palhares in z'n bovenkamer net wat sterker is dan Marquardt.

dat denk ik niet. nate heft meer ervaring en is goed genoeg om het staand te houden. Aleen die Palhares hadde ze er al lang uit moeten schoppen. Dat deden ze bij Babalu ook, alleen niet bij Palhares vaag is dat

abdel1991

14-09-2010, 22:48

over 10min hier de weigh-in http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Video-UFC-Fight-Night-22-Weigh-ins-26859

Slome

15-09-2010, 02:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEESaTDI2jY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXN-jGvhUcc&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFDXA-yEuoA&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76KUAg2z8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhtXSNYneEg

Richelieu

15-09-2010, 03:11

Ben benieuwd naar die partij. Het voordeel hier is dat ik de UFC life kan zien via Pentagon TV (het promokanaal van de Amerikaanse strijdkrachten, waarop veel sport te zien is)

Slome

15-09-2010, 04:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INH6dFTxQPg&feature=player_embedded

natal:
http://www.mixfight.nl/forum/showthread.php?106227-MW-Rafael-“Sapo”-Natal-signs-4-fight-deal-with-the-UFC&highlight=natal

Slome

15-09-2010, 17:22

TTT
nog een uur of 8 als ik t goed heb!!!!