PDA

View Full Version : Manager Tito Ortiz says he has asked for 'Cyborg' Santos' release from UFC



Kemal
10-02-2013, 07:34
The saga surrounding Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos continued on Friday when her manager said a request has been made to have her released from her UFC contract.

Just this past week, UFC President Dana White confirmed that Santos is under contract with the UFC and is owed fights from the deal she had with Strikeforce before that promotion closed in January.

The consensus has been that the fight everyone wants to see is Santos (10-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC) vs. new UFC women's bantamweight champ Ronda Rousey. But Santos is the former Strikeforce champion at 145 and has thus far been unwilling to consider a drop to 135. And Rousey (6-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC) doesn't believe she should have to go up to accommodate a challenger should she get past Liz Carmouche (7-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC) later this month in the main event of UFC 157.

It may fall under the category of a dream fight that everyone wants, but will never happen.

On Friday, Santos' manager, UFC Hall of Famer Tito Ortiz, told AXS TV's "Inside MMA" that Santos wants out.

"Right now, we're actually waiting for the UFC to release her," Ortiz said. "We asked for them to release her, and Dana actually talked to me (Thursday). They gave an offer, and I went to Cyborg and she didn't want to do it, so we asked for her release. Since they're not having a 145-pound weight class, what else can they do?

"So as of now, she's going to be released, and maybe we'll go looking somewhere else and you'll be seeing Cyborg crush some other women's faces."

Santos has not fought since a December 2011 16-second TKO win over Hiroko Yamanaka to defend her Strikeforce title. But that win was overturned to a no contest when Santos tested positive for steroids. She was suspended for a year by the California State Athletic Commission and stripped of her title by Strikeforce and parent company Zuffa.

Santos and Ortiz, as well as White, have been open to the possibility of a catch weight fight between Santos and Rousey at 140 pounds. But even White said that doesn't do much good when it comes to determining women's champions.

"It's not a title fight," White said prior to this past week's UFC 156 event in Las Vegas. "If that's what (Santos) is willing to do is go to 140, let's let Ronda defend her title a few times and see if Ronda wants to go to 140. If I know Ronda, she probably would anyway, so let's see what happens. But if (Santos) wants to fight for a title and have a title fight, she has to go to 135 pounds. A fight at 140 would be a fan fight because everybody wants to see it, but it's not one of those fights that makes sense."

Ortiz concurs that it's indeed a fight everyone wants to see. And that's why he and his client are pining to get it done at 140 pounds.

Ortiz also implied that the UFC's plan for Rousey was to get her signed, then have fight for the all-female Invicta Fighting Championship promotion and not in the UFC. The UFC currently features just the 135-pound women's division, but just one fight has been booked – Rousey-Carmouche. White recently told MMAjunkie that a media event introducing the new talent in the women's division is in the planning stages.

But with no immediate plans for a 145-pound division, that would leave Santos out in the cold, anyway. The UFC and Invicta have no formal partnership for sharing talent.

"Everyone wants to see this fight," Ortiz said. "It's blowing up on Twitter. They want to see the fight. (So) make it at a 140-pound weight class. The UFC wanted to sign a huge deal with Cyborg, but they wanted to stick her over in Invicta. It didn't make any sense to me. I've talked to Cyborg time and time again, asking her and asking her. She said, 'I'd love to do a three-fight deal with a fourth fight being against Ronda. Let's get it done at 140 and not fight for the 135-pound championship.'"

The issue that has come up time and time again is Santos being able to get to 135 pounds. Ortiz said for the 5-foot-8 Brazilian to make that cut, she'd be putting her future health and wellness in jeopardy.

"For her to get down to 135 pounds is physically impossible for a woman," he said. "For a man, it's different because we have a lot more water weight to take off. For Cris Cyborg to get down to that weight, she's going to be 3 to 4 percent body fat. I've talked to her. She says she wants to start a family later on, she wants to have kids."

Without a fight already for the past 14 months, Santos may not yet see the light at the end of the tunnel if she is asking for a release and is not granted one.

In the meantime, Rousey becomes the first female headliner of a UFC card later this month.

Pride_187
10-02-2013, 10:23
Wat is dit nou voor gezeik. Die travo mag blij zijn dat d'r een contract wordt aangeboden. Ze zou nu al een jaar van de juice af moeten zijn dus gewoon lekker hard trainen en dieeten en zorgen dat je op 135 pond uitkomt. Beetje hard to get doen... binnen 2 jaar staan er 10 nieuwe vrouwen klaar om de macht over te nemen en is ze niet meer relevant.

Pahlavan
10-02-2013, 11:33
Waarom zou iemand in godsnaam voor tito als manager nemen?! Zucht
waarschijnlijk heeft tito haar geadviseerd om haar release aan te vragen om zo 'hard to get' te spelen maar wat die groothoofd niet realiseert is dat cyborg de ufc meer nodig heeft dan andersom. Cyborg heeft momenteel niet de beste reputatie en is niet heel erg geliefd bij de fans...

Pride_187
11-02-2013, 12:02
precies

lopez86
11-02-2013, 12:06
Waarom zou iemand in godsnaam voor tito als manager nemen?! Zucht
waarschijnlijk heeft tito haar geadviseerd om haar release aan te vragen om zo 'hard to get' te spelen maar wat die groothoofd niet realiseert is dat cyborg de ufc meer nodig heeft dan andersom. Cyborg heeft momenteel niet de beste reputatie en is niet heel erg geliefd bij de fans...

Ik vind dat nogal kort door de bocht.
Cyborg heeft moeite met het gewicht te halen, en vecht nu nergens maar zit contractueel nog wel aan Zuffa vast.
Ze kan dus ook nergens anders vechten en geld verdienen.
Als ze bij Zuffa niks voor haar kunnen regelen is het niet onlogisch om ergens anders naartoe te willen, wat voor toekomst heeft in de UFC als er niet te vechten is?

rollermanskunk
11-02-2013, 12:15
Ik denk eerder dat het te maken heeft met haar dopinggebruik. Iemand die in het verleden al betrapt is wordt nu scherper in de gaten gehouden dan voorheen (zie Overeem) door de SAC. Het is voor Cyborg nu bijna onmogelijk om te kuren. Met een weight-cut wordt dit helemaal lastig. Ik vind het een goede zaak dat die nepperd zich terugtrekt.

Kemal
12-02-2013, 19:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sg9Kn-u4M8&feature=player_embedded

Naj85
15-02-2013, 00:55
UFC Done with Cris “Cyborg” Santos Posted on February 13, 2013 (http://www.mmaweekly.com/ufc-done-with-cris-cyborg-santos) by Jeff Cain (http://www.mmaweekly.com/author/jeff-cain)

http://admin.mmaweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/CrisCyborgSantosSF_7646.jpg (http://admin.mmaweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/CrisCyborgSantosSF_7646.jpg)The Ultimate Fighting Championship has severed ties with Cris “Cyborg” Santos (http://www.mmaweekly.com/?s=cris+cyborg+santos&x=0&y=0).
UFC president Dana White (http://www.mmaweekly.com/?s=dana+white&x=0&y=0) confirmed Santos’ release when talking with the media following the UFC on Fuel TV 7 pre-fight press conference (http://www.mmaweekly.com/ufc-on-fuel-tv-7-barao-vs-mcdonald-pre-fight-press-conference-video) on Wednesday.
Asked if Santos is done with the company, White responded, “Yeah.”
“I’m telling you right now, she wants nothing to do with this fight with Ronda (Rousey) (http://www.mmaweekly.com/?s=ronda+rousey&x=0&y=0),” he immediately continued. “This is the biggest show in the world. We’re working with her to get her a deal or whatever. When you send a letter from your lawyer and your doctor saying I will die if I try to make 135 (pounds), it’s just the goofiest thing. I’ve never seen anything like it in the fight business.
“Okay, so you don’t want to make 135, but you want to talk about fighting Ronda. First of all, you tested positive for steroids and got stripped of your title. And you’re trying to talk about how Ronda doesn’t want to fight you, but she’s the champion at 135. If Ronda goes and does the fight at 140 and does the fight at 140, it’s not even for a title. The fight just makes no sense.”
The UFC tried to get Santos fights outside of the organization because there is no 145-pound women’s division in the UFC. They proposed getting her fights in Invicta FC, but Santos didn’t like the idea.
Related posts


Ronda Rousey Says Cris “Cyborg” Santos is Just Trying to Stay Relevant (http://www.mmaweekly.com/ronda-rousey-says-cris-cyborg-santos-is-just-trying-stay-relevant)
Ronda Rousey vs. Cris “Cyborg” Santos Close to Becoming a Reality? (http://www.mmaweekly.com/ronda-rousey-vs-cris-cyborg-santos-close-to-becoming-a-reality)
Cris ‘Cyborg’ Santos’ Manager Says Fight With Rousey Will Happen, but Not at 135 (http://www.mmaweekly.com/cris-cyborg-santos-manager-says-fight-with-rousey-will-happen-but-not-at-135)
Cris ‘Cyborg’ Santos Stripped of Title, End of the 145lb Division? (http://www.mmaweekly.com/cris-cyborg-santos-stripped-of-title-end-of-the-145lb-division)
Cris “Cyborg” Santos Tests Positive for Steroids (UPDATED) (http://www.mmaweekly.com/cris-cyborg-santos-tests-positive-for-steroids)


“So what happens is, so we’ll figure something out where Cyborg gets some fights. Ronda defends her title a few times. Then maybe Ronda moves up to whatever and fights… they want nothing to do with that, wants nothing to do with it. It’s wacky beyond wackiness,” stated White.
“There is no 145-pound women’s division. She’s under contract with us, so we’d get her some fights somewhere else. We get her some fights. Let’s play this 135-pound thing out and see what happens, see where this thing goes. No.”
Women’s fighting in the UFC centers around the 135-pound division, a division Santos can’t or is unwilling to make. So women fighting in the UFC moves on without Santos.
“This women’s thing is coming together. When I talk to Joe (Silva) and Sean Shelby, we have 10 of the best 135-pounders in the world. We’re gonna do this division. We’re going to see how this fight goes down or whatever,” said White.
“Cyborg is pretty much irrelevant right now. She really is. She’s irrelevant. Go out there and win some fights again, get your name back, stay clean, stay off some steroids and get your career back on track and then we’ll talk. But for her to think that everybody should move around and jump through hoops for her is insane.”