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Nosferatu187
07-05-2014, 23:33
Alistair Overeem (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/32/alistair-overeem) has joined the Jackson-Winkeljohn camp in New Mexico, and looks like he won’t be missed at Blackzilians.
Gilbert "Durinho" Burns, one of the young prospects at the Blackzilians team who joined the camp with his longtime friend Vitor Belfort (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/83/vitor-belfort), claims that Overeem left the team after he injured fellow UFC heavyweight Guto Inocente (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/1084/guto-inocente) during a sparring session.
"There’s a story that fighters kept in the gym," Burns said on Sexto Round podcast (http://sextoround.com.br/12637-gilbert-durinho-tuf-brasil-3-erick-silva-x-matt-brown/). "Guto was recovering from a knee injury, returning to training, and, even with a broken hand, he was beating Overeem up in a striking sparring.
"Overeem got mad because he was getting beat up by a guy with one hand, so he took Guto down and blew out his other knee. That’s why Guto hasn’t fought in a while. We were all upset about it, and that was when (Overeem) left the team. After he left, the team got better and we had better results. Thank God he left the team."
Inocente confirmed the incident to MMAFighting.com.
"It was a kickboxing sparring," Inocente said. "I was kicking his a-- and he took me down. Unexpected.'
"Durinho" says Overeem is "cocky" and used to get beat up by other members of the team, including UFC fighters Anthony Johnson (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/434/anthony-johnson), Rashad Evans (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/43/rashad-evans) and Vitor Belfort.
"He’s an arrogant man," Burns said. "He’s exactly how he looks to be. One thing is getting in the gym and talking to me or a younger guy, but another thing is go there and not talk to Rashad, Vitor, Tyrone Spong (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/259/tyrone-spong), coach Henri (Rooft).
"He’s cocky, and the team got better when he left. He’s really tough, but he’s not that monster that he appears to be. I saw him get beat up bad in training by Anthony Johnson, Rashad, Vitor and Tyrone."
Training with top fighters in Florida, Burns has amassed a perfect 6-0 MMA record with six finishes. The jiu-jitsu world champion hopes to eventually join his teammates in the UFC, but he wants to be ready for it.
While he waits for a call from the UFC, "Durinho" will decide if he will move up to welterweight or continue at 155 and make his Legacy FC debut on July 18.
"I’m not in a hurry to be in the UFC, I’m not focused on that right now," he said. "I’m focused on learning and evolving. I want to enter the UFC like Glover (Teixeira) did. I want to get there and beat everybody up so people will say ‘Durinho' got here to fight for the title.’
"I also don’t want to get there because of Vitor (Belfort). I want to earn it, I want to deserve it. I want to knock people out, submit them, and one day I will be in the UFC. It’s the natural way."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/5/7/5691684/gilbert-burns-alistair-overeem-left-blackzilians-because-he-injured

#teamBADGUY
07-05-2014, 23:41
Alistair Overeem (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/32/alistair-overeem) has joined the Jackson-Winkeljohn camp in New Mexico, and looks like he wonít be missed at Blackzilians.
Gilbert "Durinho" Burns, one of the young prospects at the Blackzilians team who joined the camp with his longtime friend Vitor Belfort (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/83/vitor-belfort), claims that Overeem left the team after he injured fellow UFC heavyweight Guto Inocente (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/1084/guto-inocente) during a sparring session.
"Thereís a story that fighters kept in the gym," Burns said on Sexto Round podcast (http://sextoround.com.br/12637-gilbert-durinho-tuf-brasil-3-erick-silva-x-matt-brown/). "Guto was recovering from a knee injury, returning to training, and, even with a broken hand, he was beating Overeem up in a striking sparring.
"Overeem got mad because he was getting beat up by a guy with one hand, so he took Guto down and blew out his other knee. Thatís why Guto hasnít fought in a while. We were all upset about it, and that was when (Overeem) left the team. After he left, the team got better and we had better results. Thank God he left the team."
Inocente confirmed the incident to MMAFighting.com.
"It was a kickboxing sparring," Inocente said. "I was kicking his a-- and he took me down. Unexpected.'
"Durinho" says Overeem is "cocky" and used to get beat up by other members of the team, including UFC fighters Anthony Johnson (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/434/anthony-johnson), Rashad Evans (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/43/rashad-evans) and Vitor Belfort.
"Heís an arrogant man," Burns said. "Heís exactly how he looks to be. One thing is getting in the gym and talking to me or a younger guy, but another thing is go there and not talk to Rashad, Vitor, Tyrone Spong (http://www.mmafighting.com/fighter/259/tyrone-spong), coach Henri (Rooft).
"Heís cocky, and the team got better when he left. Heís really tough, but heís not that monster that he appears to be. I saw him get beat up bad in training by Anthony Johnson, Rashad, Vitor and Tyrone."
Training with top fighters in Florida, Burns has amassed a perfect 6-0 MMA record with six finishes. The jiu-jitsu world champion hopes to eventually join his teammates in the UFC, but he wants to be ready for it.
While he waits for a call from the UFC, "Durinho" will decide if he will move up to welterweight or continue at 155 and make his Legacy FC debut on July 18.
"Iím not in a hurry to be in the UFC, Iím not focused on that right now," he said. "Iím focused on learning and evolving. I want to enter the UFC like Glover (Teixeira) did. I want to get there and beat everybody up so people will say ĎDurinho' got here to fight for the title.í
"I also donít want to get there because of Vitor (Belfort). I want to earn it, I want to deserve it. I want to knock people out, submit them, and one day I will be in the UFC. Itís the natural way."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/5/7/5691684/gilbert-burns-alistair-overeem-left-blackzilians-because-he-injured




verbaast me niks ...
en dat hij daar pakkie kreeg was al bekend

Nosferatu187
07-05-2014, 23:42
is dit echt denk je?

T15Boxing
07-05-2014, 23:43
Veel dingen slaan nergens op. Een nobody met een gebroken hand en knie en toch effe een top 5 zwaargewicht als Alistair domineren? Assclown. En als Alistair zich met niemand ging bemoeien zou je ook niet een verbetering van je hele team merken als hij weg is, dat slaat ook nergens op.

En nog een ding. Sommige dwergen die met heavyweights sparren realiseren niet dat de de heavyweight maar rond halve kracht kan gaan, dus de lichtere vechter zal er beter uitzien met zijn snelheid en het feit dat hij harder kan slaan. Little man syndrome.

Nosferatu187
08-05-2014, 00:19
:crying:

Turboknecht
08-05-2014, 00:55
Ach ja, hoe dan ook, mensen hebben pijn gehad.

SpelPlan
08-05-2014, 01:32
Ik ben best wel enthousiast dat hij nu bij Jackson-Winkeljohn zit. Had dat nooit gedacht met Travis Browne ook daar.

Ben heel benieuwd hoe hij eruit ziet in z'n eerste gevecht na een camp daar.

LightHeavyWeight
08-05-2014, 06:46
Dat Alistair voor problemen zorgt geloof ik best maar dit is gewoon een verhaal van een jongen die een hekel heeft aan hem. Gewoon een kinderachtig klein kind met kinderachtige argumenten. Beat up with one hand bla bla bla.

Kemal
08-05-2014, 06:56
Tja ik vraag me af of dit serieus is.. Misschien kan Alistair hier zelf op reageren. ;)

e-type
08-05-2014, 07:35
Prima toch dat ie daar weg is. Het natrappen is nu begonnen ofzo.

Briant
08-05-2014, 09:46
Feit is dat ze blij zijn dat hij weg is.

ChingChong
08-05-2014, 09:54
Een onbekende LW claimt dat hij Overeem met 1 hand en een geblesseerde knie in elkaar mepte.. Wil het filmpje wel zien.

Klassikl
08-05-2014, 09:57
Wie gaat er nadat hij net terug is van een naar het lijkt zware knie blessure, met een gebroken hand kickbokssparren tegen Overeem? Dat gaat nergens over. Dat Overeem niet in het team pastte was vanaf dag 1 al wel duidelijk, verwacht niet dat hij bij jackson nu wel ineens een teamspeler gaat worden. Echter, laat ik me graag verrassen.

Klassikl
08-05-2014, 09:58
Een onbekende LW claimt dat hij Overeem met 1 hand en een geblesseerde knie in elkaar mepte.. Wil het filmpje wel zien.

Nee, Inocente is een HW.

Brainthief
08-05-2014, 10:48
Marketing. Verkoopt zichzelf op goedkope wijze.

Bloeba
08-05-2014, 11:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDP3s8kwDA

Lijkt er wel op dat guto zelf ook een redelijke striker is, of die alistair met een hand pakt? dat weet ik niet. lol

Willm
08-05-2014, 13:18
Als ik Alistair was zou ik hier echt niet op reageren.

Bart651
08-05-2014, 13:43
Als ik Alistair was zou ik hier echt niet op reageren.

Update: Overeem provided this response to MMAFighting.com.
"Seems to me, without throwing any jabs, that leaving Boca was an excellent choice," he said. "I wish all my former teammates the best."

Leventdepevent
08-05-2014, 13:51
op de een of andere manier geloof ik dit meteen

Willem033
08-05-2014, 13:53
Eerst liep GG hem te bashen, nu de blackzillians.
Verder, cool story bro.

mario the count
08-05-2014, 15:50
Geloof er niks van. Met een hand een van de beste kickboksers ter wereld ownen met (kickboks) sparren, droom lekker verder. Of Overeem deed rustig terwijl hij vol gas ging, dat kan ook.

De laatste keer dat iemand keihard riep dat hij zijn tegenstander liet huilen in de ring kreeg hij de klappen van zijn leven in de octagon(van diezelfde tegenstander).

Nosferatu187
08-05-2014, 16:02
Eerst liep GG hem te bashen, nu de blackzillians.
Verder, cool story bro.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTii2W_1p7OYZHkgnsP1A3EOFTfNMcz9 pQZ9F7ddExDovd4Y7fz9w

e-type
08-05-2014, 17:49
Update: Overeem provided this response to MMAFighting.com.
"Seems to me, without throwing any jabs, that leaving Boca was an excellent choice," he said. "I wish all my former teammates the best."


prima reactie.

Sysmatic
08-05-2014, 18:07
Eerst zeiken ze over hem dat hij met vrijwel niemand van de Blackzilians zou hebben getrained, maar enkel met zijn team die hij altijd bij zich had (wat je aan zijn THEREEM filmpjes wel een beetje kon zien dat hij altijd afstand hield van de BZ mensen).

En dan vervolgens lopen pijpzeiken dat hij alle hoeken kreeg te zien van al die gasten daaro. Maar hij trainde toch vrijwel nooit met ze? :)

Son & Breugel!
08-05-2014, 18:32
prima reactie.

x2

Turboknecht
08-05-2014, 19:14
Eerst zeiken ze over hem dat hij met vrijwel niemand van de Blackzilians zou hebben getrained, maar enkel met zijn team die hij altijd bij zich had (wat je aan zijn THEREEM filmpjes wel een beetje kon zien dat hij altijd afstand hield van de BZ mensen).

En dan vervolgens lopen pijpzeiken dat hij alle hoeken kreeg te zien van al die gasten daaro. Maar hij trainde toch vrijwel nooit met ze? :)

Haha, zit wel wat in ja. De waarheid zal wel ergens in het midden liggen. Ik kan me moeilijk voorstellen dat hij door iedereen geschoold werd daar. Dat hij arrogant is, daar valt niet over te twisten.

Pahlavan
18-05-2014, 17:28
Rarely is the addition of a top-10 heavyweight into a gym's ranks ever a cause for concern. But when it comes to Alistair Overeem, things are never that simple.


A perennial lightning rod for controversy, Overeem is expected to join Albuquerque's famed Jackson-Winkeljohn gym for his next fight camp. Greg Jackson's motley squad includes a host of notable UFC names such as Travis Browne and light heavyweight champ Jon Jones, which would provide an intruding cast of training partners to aid Overeem in his ascent back up the heavyweight rankings.


Overeem's decision, though, comes on the heels of a mass backlash led against the Dutchman by his former training partners in Boca Raton, as several members of the Blackzilian camp have expressed their pleasure at Overeem's departure, while Gilbert Burns alleged that Overeem injured the knee of fellow UFC heavyweight Guto Inocente during a particularly nasty sparring session.


Jackson's top heavyweight, however, isn't concerned.


"I think everybody is due a chance," Browne said on The MMA Hour. "Just because he wasn't the best teammate there doesn't mean he can't be a good teammate here.


"When he comes to Jackson's, the stuff that all his other teammates were saying that he did is not going to fly at Jackson's. He will not have an opportunity to even let it get that far. Like, if he says, Ďoh hey, Coach, I'm going to bring in my own guys and work out at night,' Coach Jackson would be like, Ďyou can either train with the team or you can leave.'"


Browne, who actually fought and defeated Overeem via first-round TKO in August 2013, added that a culture of pandering to Overeem's many requests while he was with the Blackzilians likely led to the situation in Florida reaching its acrimonious conclusion -- a culture which will not be tolerated for one second in Albuquerque.


"I feel like a lot of people, because he's Alistair Overeem, have catered to him," Browne said. "I feel like the Blackzilians probably catered to him so he got used to it and he felt like he was going to be able to throw his weight around a little bit.


"At Jackson's, that's not going to fly. You're either part of the team or you're not. If you're not part of the team, get the hell out of here. We don't need you here. We didn't ask you to come here. You asked to come here, you see something here that you need. So you're either part of the team, or leave."

S.B.
18-05-2014, 17:41
Wat leuk voor Browne dat hij de nieuwe woordvoerder is voor Jacksons!

Willem033
18-05-2014, 17:45
Dit is al een oud stuk.

Pahlavan
18-05-2014, 18:34
Dit is al een oud stuk.

Van een week of 2 geleden ja, maar was het hier al gepost?

hankmoody
18-05-2014, 21:35
Ik geloof er geen kut van

Gert Jan
18-05-2014, 23:12
Jealousy is what makes bitches talk..