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    Default MMAWeekly & Sherdog MMA Heavyweight Rankings *SPOILERS*

    Op welk nr komt Alistair nu te staan in de rankings na zijn fantastische performance afgelopen nacht?

    Op Sherdog staat hij momenteel niet eens in de top 10:

    Heavyweight

    1. Fedor Emelianenko (31-1, 1 NC)
    It seemed fairly straightforward that Emelianenko would stake his heavyweight supremacy against Brazilian Fabricio Werdum at Strikeforce’s second CBS offering on April 17. Now, a contract squabble between Strikeforce and M-1, which represents Emelianenko, means early summer is the likely time for the bout.

    2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
    While we do not know exactly how Lesnar will look in his return to the cage after his bout with diverticulitis, we do know his foe. Come July 3, he will take on Shane Carwin to unify both halves of the UFC heavyweight mantle in what should be a blockbuster bout for the promotion.

    3. Cain Velasquez (8-0)
    Whether one wants to call it a passing of the torch or a coming-out party, Velasquez’s performance against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 110 was short and brutal. In less than half a round, Velasquez destroyed one of MMA’s most historically outstanding heavyweights in easily his most impressive performance to date.

    4. Shane Carwin (12-0)
    It took almost four minutes -- an eternity by his usual standards -- but at UFC 111 in Newark, N.J., Carwin blew off Frank Mir’s doors in the first round to claim the UFC interim heavyweight title. However, the real championship will be contested July 3, when Carwin meets Brock Lesnar.

    5. Frank Mir (13-5)
    Mir entered his March 27 bout with Shane Carwin as a slight betting favorite. However, he looked none the part in the cage, as Carwin bashed him with left hands in the clinch and decimated the former UFC champion to take the promotion’s interim title. With it, he took Mir’s chance for a rubber match with Brock Lesnar.

    6. Junior dos Santos (11-1)
    Dos Santos’ March 21 bout with Gabriel Gonzaga was supposed to be a sterner test for the hot Brazilian prospect. However, it was business as usual for “Cigano,” who used his boxing ability to turn out the lights on “Napao” and firmly entrench himself in the UFC heavyweight title race.

    7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1, 1 NC)
    “Minotauro” had an army of backers who felt the former Pride and UFC heavyweight champion would put on a vintage performance against Cain Velasquez at UFC 110. However, post-fight discussion centered on whether or not Nogueira still has the physical tools to hang with young, elite heavyweights after Velasquez polished him off in a little more than two minutes.

    8. Brett Rogers (10-1)
    Despite the fact that Rogers was taken out by Fedor Emelianenko in November, “The Grim” will get the chance to vie for the Strikeforce heavyweight crown on May 15 in St. Louis. Rogers will take on champion Alistair Overeem, who makes his long-awaited return to the promotion after capturing its heavyweight title in November 2007.

    9. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
    The former UFC champion has not seen action since June, when he lasted just 22 seconds against Brett Rogers. However, Arlovski has inked a deal with Strikeforce that will get him back into the cage soon. “The Pitbull” will take on Antonio Silva on May 15 in St. Louis.

    10. Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1)
    Werdum will have to wait another couple of months to fight for MMA’s heavyweight mantle. He expected to meet heavyweight kingpin Fedor Emelianenko in April, but Emelianenko’s contract dispute with Strikeforce means that “Vai Cavalo” will have to sit pretty until the early summer.



    Op MMAWeekly staat hij momenteel op nr 9

    HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

    #1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko

    2. Brock Lesnar

    3. Shane Carwin

    4. Cain Velasquez

    5. Junior Dos Santos

    6. Frank Mir

    7. Brett Rogers

    8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

    9. Alistair Overeem

    10. Fabricio Werdum

    MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings last updated on May 12, 2010
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    Ik denk op de plek van Frank Mir in beide lijsten...

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    Ligt eraan waar je het op bazeert... Als het om prestaties uit het verleden gaat, dan zal ie lager staan, dan als het gaat om waar hij zal staan als je gokt van wie hij zal winnen. Ik zie hem als grootste dreiging voor Fedor en daarom staat hij samen met Brock in mijn top3. Op basis van resultaten in HW MMA zou hij lager staan. Maar hij kan het hele rijtje pakken imo.

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    Die van MMA-Junkie voor het heavy artillery event:
    Here's how MMAjunkie.com's John Morgan and Dann Stupp have it now:

    1. Fedor Emelianenko (Strikeforce/M-1)
    2. Brock Lesnar (UFC)
    3. Shane Carwin (UFC)
    4. Junior Dos Santos (UFC)
    5. Cain Velasquez (UFC)
    6. Frank Mir (UFC)
    7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (UFC)
    8. Josh Barnett (DREAM/Impact FC)
    9. Brett Rogers (Strikeforce)
    10. Fabricio Werdum (Strikeforce)

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    Zeker beter dan Cain

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeIIe View Post
    Die van MMA-Junkie voor het heavy artillery event:
    Here's how MMAjunkie.com's John Morgan and Dann Stupp have it now:

    1. Fedor Emelianenko (Strikeforce/M-1)
    2. Brock Lesnar (UFC)
    3. Shane Carwin (UFC)
    4. Junior Dos Santos (UFC)
    5. Cain Velasquez (UFC)
    6. Frank Mir (UFC)
    7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (UFC)
    8. Josh Barnett (DREAM/Impact FC)
    9. Brett Rogers (Strikeforce)
    10. Fabricio Werdum (Strikeforce)
    Dus zelfs na gisteren staat Ali hier niet tussen en Rogers wel? En wat doet Josh Barnett daar nog tussen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by el bastardo View Post
    Dus zelfs na gisteren staat Ali hier niet tussen en Rogers wel? En wat doet Josh Barnett daar nog tussen?
    Ik zei er toch bij, dat dit voor zaterdag was gepost. Dus VOOR de overwinning van Overeem op Rogers.
    Hier staat het volledige artikel: Poll results: Strikeforce's Andrei Arlovski or Antonio Silva worthy of top-10 ranking? | MMAjunkie.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by GerritTonijn View Post
    Zeker beter dan Cain
    Op wat baseer je dat? Cain heeft van Kongo, Big Nog En Rothwell gewonnen op dominante wijze. Alistair Overeem zag er uitstekend uit gisteren maar Brett Rogers is de enige HW die hij heeft verslagen die het waard is om opgenoemd te worden in MMA. Een 9e plek vind ik eerlijk op dit moment.
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    Alistair gaat die lijst doorklimmen. Ik hoop dat hij binnen nu en 2 jaar naar de UFC gaat, ondanks dat hij dan een exclusiviteits contract heeft

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    Het is wat wrestler zegt. Hij meet zich niet echt met grote namen. Dan ga je niet stijgen op zo een lijst. Voor het eerst in tijden ook weer dat hij in Amerika vecht. Fedor is nu zijn volgende uitdaging verslaat hij hem ( kan het maar moeilijk geloven) dan zal hij zeker een aardige sprong maken.
    Ik geloof ook wel dat hij het een hoop jongen in de ufc moeilijk kan maken maar sommige zijn een stap te ver. JDS zou hem ko slaan of hij moet goed gebruik maken van z'n postuur en 'm naar de grond slepen. Het is nog maar de vraag hoe hij het gaat doen tegen echt goede worstelaars zoals je die hebt in de UFC.
    "If the ref hadn’t stopped him, Fedor was going to take that head home to his spaceship and polish it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeru View Post
    Ik denk op de plek van Frank Mir in beide lijsten...
    Ik denk het zelfde!

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    op gevoel en intutie

    1.lesnar
    2.overeem
    3.JDS
    4.fedor
    5.carwin
    6.velasquez
    7.noguiera
    8.rogers
    9.mir
    10.werdum of barnett

    ik zie fedor echt niet meer winnen van JDS,lesnar en/of overeem, 4jaar terug misschien maar de magie is over, overeem probeert die al te ducken en ja de managment de schuld geven is natuurlijk lekker makkelijk want als die echt wil vechten, vecht die gewoon met een of zonder een akkoord van het managment

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    een stuk minder rooskleurig dan ik had verwacht, ze zijn nog niet echt op de overeem bandwagon

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    Hoe kom je erbij om fedoor op plaats 4 te zetten
    Fedor is #1 in de wereld
    Quote Originally Posted by Petrosyan188 View Post
    op gevoel en intutie

    1.lesnar
    2.overeem
    3.JDS
    4.fedor
    5.carwin
    6.velasquez
    7.noguiera
    8.rogers
    9.mir
    10.werdum of barnett

    ik zie fedor echt niet meer winnen van JDS,lesnar en/of overeem, 4jaar terug misschien maar de magie is over, overeem probeert die al te ducken en ja de managment de schuld geven is natuurlijk lekker makkelijk want als die echt wil vechten, vecht die gewoon met een of zonder een akkoord van het managment

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    nou als er een partij is tussen lesnar of JDS of overeem vs fedor ga ik op dit moment dus voor lesnar of JDS of overeem, mijn lijstje heeft niks met de prestaties van het verleden maar meer van het heden gewoon een soort 'bet' lijstje.. dus als een van die 10(11) vechters tegenmekaar moeten kun je zo zien op wie ik dan met geld inzet...

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    Wat doet die lesnar zo hoog... Hij heeft zich in mijn beleving nog helemaal niet zo bewezen... Met maar 5 gevechten...

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    Sherdog top tien HW net binnen:


    1. Fedor Emelianenko (31-1, 1 NC)
    “The Last Emperor” will return for Strikeforce on June 26, defending the sport’s heavyweight mantle against Brazilian jiu-jitsu stud Fabricio Werdum. However, Alistair Overeem has quickly become the opponent of choice for Emelianenko following the dynamic Dutchman’s destructive handling of Brett Rogers on May 15.
    2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
    While we do not know exactly how Lesnar will look in his return to the cage after his bout with diverticulitis, we do know his foe. Come July 3, he will take on Shane Carwin to unify both halves of the UFC heavyweight mantle in what should be a blockbuster match for the promotion.
    3. Cain Velasquez (8-0)
    Whether one wants to call it a passing of the torch or a coming-out party, Velasquez’s performance against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 110 was short and brutal. In less than half a round, Velasquez destroyed one of MMA’s most historically outstanding heavyweights in easily his most impressive performance to date.
    4. Shane Carwin (12-0)
    It took almost four minutes -- an eternity by his usual standards -- but at UFC 111 in Newark, N.J., Carwin blew off Frank Mir’s doors in the first round to claim the UFC interim heavyweight title. However, the real championship will be contested July 3, when Carwin meets Brock Lesnar.
    5. Frank Mir (13-5)
    Mir entered his March 27 bout with Shane Carwin as a slight betting favorite. However, he looked none the part in the cage, as Carwin bashed him with left hands in the clinch and decimated the former UFC champion to take the promotion’s interim title. With it, he took Mir’s chance for a rubber match with Brock Lesnar.
    6. Junior dos Santos (11-1)
    With five stoppages in five bouts inside the Octagon, dos Santos has thrust himself into the UFC heavyweight title mix. “Cigano” might have the opportunity to cinch a title shot for late 2010 when he meets “The Ultimate Fighter” Season 10 winner Roy Nelson at UFC 117 on Aug. 7 in what should be an entertaining heavyweight tilt.
    7. Alistair Overeem (33-11, 1 NC)
    It took nearly two and a half years for Overeem to return to the U.S. and defend his Strikeforce heavyweight title. Fortunately for fans, Overeem’s performance was worth the wait, as the Dutchman mauled Brett Rogers in the first frame and solidified himself as the most attractive opponent outside of the UFC for Fedor Emelianenko.
    8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1, 1 NC)
    “Minotauro” had an army of backers who felt the former Pride Fighting Championships and UFC heavyweight titleholder would put on a vintage performance against Cain Velasquez at UFC 110. However, post-fight discussion centered on whether or not Nogueira still has the physical tools to hang with young, elite heavyweights after Velasquez polished him off in a little more than two minutes.
    9. Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1)
    Fans are already looking past Werdum and crossing their fingers for a clash between Fedor Emelianenko and Alistair Overeem later this year. However, the Brazilian standout will have his day in the cage with the sport’s heavyweight kingpin when he collides with Emelianenko on June 26 in San Jose, Calif.
    10. Antonio Silva (14-2)
    Ever since he ran roughshod over heavyweights in Europe back in 2005, onlookers expected greatness from Silva. On May 15, “Bigfoot” finally took a step toward those expectations, as he soundly outboxed former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski to a unanimous decision and recorded the most significant win of his career.

    Other contenders: Andrei Arlovski, Josh Barnett, Roy Nelson, Brett Rogers, Ben Rothwell.

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