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    Default Wat is nou precies het verhaal achter geschiedenis van huidige MMA?

    Is het nu afkomstig van pancrase of van valetudo? Of komt valetudo ook van pancrase af?
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    Het is allemaal begonnen toen Pendekar Ray geboren werd en zichzelf begon te ontwikkelen. De rest is geschiedenis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingSun View Post
    Het is allemaal begonnen toen Pendekar Ray geboren werd en zichzelf begon te ontwikkelen. De rest is geschiedenis.
    aangezien Baske nog niet zo lang post.. Pendekar Ray: Mixfight legend;

    edit: goede vraag btw

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    potatoe potato

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    MMA history

    De eerste Vale Tudo evenementen werden geloof ik in de jaren 20 van de vorige eeuw georganiseerd. Dus zou ik denken dat dat de voorloper van het moderne MMA is.

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    ... :P

    'Dus ik zou denken'. Dat bedoel ik dus, ik weet niet waar het HUIDIGE MMA van afkomt. Want ik las net in een onderzoek in de introductie dat het huidige MMA van pancrase afkomstig is, maar ik weet niet of ik het daar mee eens moet zijn.

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    Volgens mij was het een jonge Helio Gracie die voor het eerst regelmatig vechters van andere sporten ging uitdagen en dat hij uiteindelijk een eigen programma kreeg op tv met die gevechten en dat het Vale Tudo werd genoemd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baske View Post
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    'Dus ik zou denken'. Dat bedoel ik dus, ik weet niet waar het HUIDIGE MMA van afkomt. Want ik las net in een onderzoek in de introductie dat het huidige MMA van pancrase afkomstig is, maar ik weet niet of ik het daar mee eens moet zijn.
    Oh. Je bedoelde het oude Pancrase. Dat van 3000 jaar geleden. Ik dacht dat je de Pancrase organisatie bedoelde.

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    Ja, ik zag de verwarring eigenlijk al aankomen maar heb er niet aan gedacht toen ik 't schreef.

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    Naast Vale Tudo is ook Shooto een van de belangrijkste oorsprongen van het huidige MMA. Shooto is ontstaan uit het japans pro-worstelen. Mensen wilden wel eens weten wat er zou gebeuren als de worstelaars niet van te voren afspreken wat er gaat gebeuren.
    Verder zijn door de eeuwen heen altijd wel gevechten geweest tussen verschillende vechtstijlen. Denk eens aan de wedstrijd van Mohammed Ali tegen Inoki en van Gene 'Judo' Lebell tegen Milo Savage.

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    Although pancrase – a sport in the ancient Greek games that combined wrestling and
    boxing – appears similar to MMA, the recent history of the sport is traced back to the
    country of Brazil and in particular the Gracie family. The story of the beginning of
    MMA in the USA – a beginning that spread to other countries like Japan, Canada,
    and many in Western Europe – is a story of the beginning of a new martial art called
    Brazilian, or Gracie, Jiu Jitsu. The name Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) was given to this art
    to differentiate it from the traditional art of Japanese Jiu Jitsu from which it sprang.

    Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ) began with the immigration of a highly skilled jiu jitsu
    (judo) fighter named Count Komo (Mitsuo Maeda) from Japan. At the beginning of
    the 1900s Japan was attempting to form a colony in the country of Brazil and Count
    Komo immigrated in order to further the work of the Japanese in that country.
    Komo was a skilled jiu jitsu fighter who had trained under the tutelage of the
    famous Jigoro Kano, the founder of modern judo.
    During Komo’s time in Brazil the Japanese colony was aided by a Brazilian
    politician of Scottish descent named Gaston Gracie. As a means of thanking Gracie
    for helping the colony, Komo began mentoring Gracie’s sons in the art of jiu jitsu
    even though teaching the art to non-Japanese was forbidden at that time. Komo
    continued teaching Gracie’s sons for a few years and then moved back to Japan,
    leaving them to modify the art.
    Of the Gracie’s sons, the most notable were Carlos, the athletic older brother,
    and young Helio, a frail and small child. Carlos began modifying the art to make it
    as practical as possible for the rough streets of Brazil. In the beginning, Helio
    Gracie had difficulty with the techniques due to his small stature. To compensate
    for his small size he practiced different leverage points to maximize the efficiency
    of a technique allowing even a very small person to accomplish it and defeat a much
    stronger opponent. Through Helio’s creativity and constant practice, BJJ became a
    very practical and efficient art that truly allowed a smaller opponent to defeat a
    larger one.
    As Helio Gracie entered his athletic prime he and Carlos attempted to promote
    their art by offering a challenge that any man of any size could request a fight.
    These matches were called Vale Tudo , which means “anything goes” in Portugese,
    the native language of Brazil. Helio fought many times in these first “no holds
    barred” fights and his fame began to spread across the country.
    Helio Gracie fought any and all comers for years in Brazil, even challenging the
    great US heavyweight boxer Joe Louis to a fight (Louis declined). Over the next
    half century, the name Gracie and the art of jiu jitsu that the family developed was
    respected throughout the country of Brazil.
    In the early 1990s, Rorian Gracie, one of the sons of Helio Gracie, helped create
    a new enterprise called the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). The UFC was
    Rorian Gracie’s way of showcasing in the USA the effectiveness of the art that
    his father had developed. In 1993, the first UFC was held in Denver, Colorado. It was
    promoted as a no-holds-barred bloodsport with no weight classes, no time limits,
    and few rules. This first UFC was fought in tournament format in which the winner
    would continue competing until he won the bracket – three fights in one night.
    Rorian and the Gracie family selected younger brother Royce Gracie to represent
    the clan in this first UFC.
    Although Royce Gracie only weighed around 175 lb (80 kg), he defeated all his
    opponents by tap out (the opponent signaling their desire to end the match by tapping
    the mat) even though he was outweighed in every fight, sometimes by as much
    as 60 lb (27 kg). This first event caused three major happenings in the world of
    martial arts. First, it catapulted the Gracie name into the fight business in the USA
    and introduced their art, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, to American fight enthusiasts. Second,
    it demonstrated the effectiveness of grappling techniques and the importance for a
    fighter to know how to fight on the ground – until this time most fighters focused
    solely on striking and the striking arts such as boxing, karate, and taekwondo.
    Third, it coined a new term “ultimate fighting” that eventually developed into the
    current sport of mixed martial arts.
    Over the next decade the UFC and the sport of MMA went through difficult
    times as they faced mounting criticisms from combat sports regulators and the
    mainstream media. Senator John McCain lead the charge to ban the new sport, calling
    it “human cock fighting” [1] and when no legitimate sport authority sanctioned
    the events, the sport was forced to survive underground due to a lack of funding and
    pressure from the government.
    In 2001, a company named Zuffa bought the rights to the UFC and began working
    with both the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board and the Nevada State Athletic
    Commission to develop a set body of rules so that the sport could become a sanctioned
    event in those states. Currently, the sport of MMA is sanctioned in approximately
    30 states in the USA and its pay-per-view ratings top even well-promoted
    boxing matches. In the USA, the sport of MMA is riding a wave of popularity
    behind the creation of a cable television show and a marketing blitz by Zuffa and its
    partners. The sport of MMA is now the fastest growing combat sport in the world.

    Bron: R. Kordi et al. (eds.), Combat Sports Medicine,

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    Deze is ook leuk (voor nl dan):

    http://www.skmo.nl/bestanden/42_grapplinginNed1.pdf

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    Lijkt bijna een mooie mythe XD Hartelijk dank!

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    Where did Jiu-Jitsu really came from?

    The story of the gentle art in Brazil is much confuse. Many years after the coming of the Japanese Mitsuyo Maeda (Conde Koma) to our country, almost 100 years ago, people say complete different things about the origin of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil, which has become an internationally known sport, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. People tell the same story from different perspectives, but there was anything on the original documents to prove the facts.

    Obstinate to uncover the truth behind this messy story, TATAME Magazine prepared an exclusive article about the origin of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and how this story blends with Judo’s. “The mysteries and confusing stories were fed by fragmental versions which, in the absence of scientific research, ignorance and even passional manipulations replace the truth story”, affirms Tufy Cairus, digger of the history of Jiu-Jitsu and Judo in Brazil and expert on the trajectory of Conde Koma
    "Some people have so much respect for their superiors
    they have none left for themselves."

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    Nog iets wat enorm interessant was om te lezen.

    Lijkt me interessant om in dit topic een verzameling van geschiedenis te plaatsen. Als iemand dus nog meer perfecte artikels heeft over de geschiedenis van een sport, post ze!

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    THE CURE IS FREE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE DISEASE.

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    THE CURE IS FREE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE DISEASE.

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    THE CURE IS FREE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE DISEASE.

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    Geweldige filmpjes

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    Chuck norris heeft Mma bedacht las ik op internet

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    Wereldwijd zou ik zeggen kijk dit filmpje even af op momenten zie je MMA handelingen ;- )


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJMLWhXQA_4
    Last edited by KABOEM; 19-11-2010 at 09:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maartenjackie View Post
    Chuck norris heeft Mma bedacht las ik op internet
    Ik heb gelezen dat Chuck Norris te geweldig is om MMA uitgevonden te hebben. Hij was blijkbaar zó goed dat geen enkele vecht organisatie hem wilde aannemen. Overigens een beetje hetzelfde met Steven Seagal, maar in mindere mate.

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    THE CURE IS FREE, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE DISEASE.

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    er is ooit een film over gemaakt. Gladiator heet die volgensmij...
    Fedor - Mousasi - GSP - Aoki - Hellboy - Cigano - Alvarez - Wicky - Diaz - Kitaoka
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    Hello Shooto:
    Shoot-Wrestling/Shoot-Fighting
    Forward by Larry Hartsell
    Shoot Wrestling is a popular martial art and combative sport in Japan founded by Satoru Sayama and brought to the United States by former Shoot Wrestling Champion and highest-ranking instructor under Sayama, “Shootist” Yorinaga Nakamura. Shoot Wrestling, also called “Shooto”, “Shoot-Fighting”, or “Shooting”, is a unique blend of Russian Sambo, Judo, Jiujitsu, Catch-As-Catch-Can Wrestling, and Kick-boxing & Thai-Boxing.

    A truly combative martial arts sport, Shoot Wrestling utilizes long range kicking, punching, kneeing, evasion, and footwork. Practitioners are allowed to throw, tackle, takedown, or sweep the opponent and continue on the ground fighting and engage into submission and locking.

    “Shooto” is originally derived from the Japanese characters, Shu and To, the rough translation means to “acquire” and “fight”. Fight means not only a physical confrontation, but also a struggle to overcome and to persevere in life.

    It was in the winter of 1984 that Satoru Sayama first established his dojo in Seta, Tokyo, which he named “Tiger Gym”. Later, he moved it to Sanjenjaya, Tokyo, where it became the now legendary “Super Tiger Gym”. It was in this new venue that the art, philosophy, and sport of “Shooto” were started in earnest.

    Actual Shooto competition began in 1985. It was simply referred to as “Shooting” but only existed as amateur competition until 1989, when the first professional event took place at the Korakuen Hall in Tokyo in May of 1989. Within those first four years, the sport had time to evolve and grow until 1993 when most of the development process had reached an optimum level.

    Shortly thereafter, the first U.F.C. competition was held in Denver, Colorado, U.S.A. After witnessing the effectiveness of the ground striking used there and in the initial Vale Tudo tournaments, then being held in Japan, which was prohibited in Shooto at the time, Sayama decided the sport must assimilate these techniques, thus evolving his vision even further in his Shoot Wrestling.

    Ground punches to the head were fully implemented in 1995. This played a major role in making Shooto more technically exciting! The skill level of professional Shooto fighters began to increase substantially. Sayama’s chief student is Sensei Yorinaga Nakamura. Nakamura is the former Shooto World Champion and has carried on the Sayama legacy by brining Shooto to the U.S.A. by way of the famous Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts (Inosanto.com). There he has taught and certified Guro Dan Inosanto and Sifu Larry Hartsell (jkdassoc.com) and 2X Shoot Champion Eric Paulson to carry on the teachings of his mentor Sayama and to help perpetuate the sport here in the United States.

    End Forward
    I first witnessed Sensei Yorinaga’s amazing talents during my first visit to the Inosanto Academy around 1995-96 when he performed a fantastic Shooto seminar there amidst an eager crowd of martial artists. I was stunned to see how gracefully Yorinaga would slip and shoot in at his training partners with unbelievable skill! He easily flowed into transitions as he executed locks and submissions that most of had never seen even before. Here was a Master-Shootist on a level beyond most anyone I’d ever been exposed to prior or since!

    Since then I’ve been fortunate enough to have taken classes under him at the Inosanto Academy, where he still trains his students during parts of the year when he lives here in Los Angeles. Most of the time he spends in his native Japan conducting business as the President of the Shooto Association and teaching his students there.

    by Paul S. Lewis

    Hello Shooto: a brief intro to shootfighting

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