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    jammer van Diaz. dat is wel een mismatch die is snel klaar met cyborg. diaz naar de ufc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kooivechter View Post
    jammer van Diaz. dat is wel een mismatch die is snel klaar met cyborg. diaz naar de ufc!
    Voor mij is DIAZ echt nog niet klaar bij strikeforce. Eerst Paul Daley en Woodly een shot gunnen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince View Post
    Voor mij is DIAZ echt nog niet klaar bij strikeforce. Eerst Paul Daley en Woodly een shot gunnen.
    Toch sneu dat Diaz en Daley die in de UFC nooit met de absolute top mee konden draaien dan om de Strikeforce titel strijden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikoku View Post
    Toch sneu dat Diaz en Daley die in de UFC nooit met de absolute top mee konden draaien dan om de Strikeforce titel strijden.
    Hoezo zou Daley nooit met de absolute top van de UFC me kunnen draaien?
    Door die loss van kotsnek?
    Ik vind het juist erg jammer dat daley niet meer bij de UFC is, al is hij op de grond geen wereldvechter, hij maakt zeker kans tegen de UFC top met zijn geweldige KO in beide handen

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsomeone View Post
    Hoezo zou Daley nooit met de absolute top van de UFC me kunnen draaien?
    Door die loss van kotsnek?
    Ik vind het juist erg jammer dat daley niet meer bij de UFC is, al is hij op de grond geen wereldvechter, hij maakt zeker kans tegen de UFC top met zijn geweldige KO in beide handen
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    Een decision loss tegen de 1# contender niet meedraaien met de top?
    Kan niet wachten op Diaz vs Daley / Woodly want zie Cyborg niet winnen.

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    Zeker zeg ik dat.

    Kijk ook maar naar zijn eerdere partijen met Thompson en Jake Shields. Daley is heel erg een-dimensionaal en dat is niet goed genoeg om mee te draaien in de top. Als hij al 3 rondes lang totaal gedomineerd wordt door Koscheck wat zouden GSP, Fitch, Shields II dan wel niet met hem doen. Een flinke punch hebben is heel erg handig maar is niet genoeg. Kijk maar naar Thiago Alves in zijn gevecht met GSP bijvoorbeeld.

    Het is altijd al het probleem geweest van de Britse vechters geweest dat zodra een goede worstelaar ze naar de grond nam ze vaak gedomineerd werden en er niet veel van kwam. Zelfde probleem met Nick Diaz. Zodra hij tegenover iemand staat die echt een flink potje kan worstelen zit hij in de problemen zoals je zag in de UFC.

    Het is heel leuk dat 'KO power in both hands' maar om een GSP, een Jon Fitch, een BJ Penn te verslaan moet je gewoon veel meer in huis hebben. Kijk naar de kampioenen die er nu zijn in de UFC, er is geen enkele vechter die zo een-dimensionaal is als Daley kampioen.

    Daarmee zeg ik niet dat een Daley vs Diaz mij niet een veel leukere match-up lijkt dan een GSP-Fitch II, tegenovergestelde juist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikoku View Post
    Zeker zeg ik dat.

    Kijk ook maar naar zijn eerdere partijen met Thompson en Jake Shields. Daley is heel erg een-dimensionaal en dat is niet goed genoeg om mee te draaien in de top. Als hij al 3 rondes lang totaal gedomineerd wordt door Koscheck wat zouden GSP, Fitch, Shields II dan wel niet met hem doen. Een flinke punch hebben is heel erg handig maar is niet genoeg. Kijk maar naar Thiago Alves in zijn gevecht met GSP bijvoorbeeld.

    Het is altijd al het probleem geweest van de Britse vechters geweest dat zodra een goede worstelaar ze naar de grond nam ze vaak gedomineerd werden en er niet veel van kwam. Zelfde probleem met Nick Diaz. Zodra hij tegenover iemand staat die echt een flink potje kan worstelen zit hij in de problemen zoals je zag in de UFC.

    Het is heel leuk dat 'KO power in both hands' maar om een GSP, een Jon Fitch, een BJ Penn te verslaan moet je gewoon veel meer in huis hebben. Kijk naar de kampioenen die er nu zijn in de UFC, er is geen enkele vechter die zo een-dimensionaal is als Daley kampioen.

    Daarmee zeg ik niet dat een Daley vs Diaz mij niet een veel leukere match-up lijkt dan een GSP-Fitch II, tegenovergestelde juist.
    Ik ben het met je eens dat zij groundgame niet veel voorstelt.
    Maar thompson wist hem ook niet te submitten, en gesubmit worden door shields lijkt me geen schande.
    Veel mensen achte daley ook kansloos tegen het sterke grondwerk van Hazelett, we weten allemaal hoe dat is afgelopen.
    ik weet zeker dat als daley wat meer aan zijn groundgame werkt hij echt wel potten had kunnen breken in de UFC

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    "I train every day hoping for a fight, my opponent never matters. When I found out I was fighting Nick, I just adopted the strategy for this style of fight. I didn稚 care that my opponent is Nick Diaz.

    Nobody has really seen my ground game. I知 solid in Greco-Roman and I have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I知 not worried about keeping it standing.


    I want to showcase my BJJ. If I知 underestimated on the ground, I知 okay with that. (I知) very confident if it goes to the ground; I will be okay.


    Once I take the belt, I want to fight Gegard Mousasi and Melvin Manhoef in any weight class."
    "Some people have so much respect for their superiors
    they have none left for themselves."

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    Ik heb het interview van Diaz gekeken, wordt er bijna zelf depressief van? WTF?

    "i wish i was given as much as put in" ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slome View Post
    http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_as...rg1_medium.jpg
    "I train every day hoping for a fight, my opponent never matters. When I found out I was fighting Nick, I just adopted the strategy for this style of fight. I didn’t care that my opponent is Nick Diaz.

    Nobody has really seen my ground game. I’m solid in Greco-Roman and I have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I’m not worried about keeping it standing.


    I want to showcase my BJJ. If I’m underestimated on the ground, I’m okay with that. (I’m) very confident if it goes to the ground; I will be okay.


    Once I take the belt, I want to fight Gegard Mousasi and Melvin Manhoef in any weight class."
    Heel begrijpelijk dat hij een rematch met beide wil! Tegen Gegard belandde hij in de crucifix positie en vond hij het onterecht gestopt, tegen Manhoef was 鳬n van de bruutste slugfest's ooit. Een rematch met Gegard zie ik Cyborg niet winnen. Gegard is veel en veel beter (geworden). Manhoef zal ongetwijfeld weer een leuke pot worden.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slome View Post
    http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_as...rg1_medium.jpg
    "I train every day hoping for a fight, my opponent never matters. When I found out I was fighting Nick, I just adopted the strategy for this style of fight. I didn稚 care that my opponent is Nick Diaz.

    Nobody has really seen my ground game. I知 solid in Greco-Roman and I have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I知 not worried about keeping it standing.


    I want to showcase my BJJ. If I知 underestimated on the ground, I知 okay with that. (I知) very confident if it goes to the ground; I will be okay.


    Once I take the belt, I want to fight Gegard Mousasi and Melvin Manhoef in any weight class."
    Slome...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrie Nak View Post
    Verkeerde thread Slome? Hij's overigens ook al een paar dagen geleden gepost, zij het in een apart topic weliswaar.

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    Yo Nak, tijdens het interview laat Werdum zich oa uit over de partij Diaz vs Cyborg....2.38m ;0
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    "Some people have so much respect for their superiors
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    "Some people have so much respect for their superiors
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    Default Evangelista 鼎yborg Training Camp for Nick Diaz at The Arena MMA


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    LIVE persconferentie Cyborg - Diaz

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    Volgens mij is ie al offline, was dan een korte persconferentie ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikoku View Post
    Volgens mij is ie al offline, was dan een korte persconferentie ;p
    lol ja was al om 21:30 begonnen

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    Thanks Marcel, mooi filmpje!

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    Herschel Walker and Scott Carson a Study in Contrasts at Strikeforce Presser

    SAN JOSE – Herschel Walker made two things very clear at Thursday afternoon's pre-fight press conference at the HP Pavilion: 1) he is totally, fully invested in his MMA training, no matter what skeptics might think, and 2) he owns a "chicken company" that somehow doesn't get any press even with all the media attention on his second pro fight this Saturday night at Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Cyborg.

    "I have a food company. I don't know if you all know that but you need to write that up," said Walker. "I have a chicken company that sells to Sysco. It's the largest minority-owned chicken company in the United States. I have over 600 employees. I'm serious, you need to write that down."

    The point is, the reason the 48-year-old waited so long to get involved in MMA wasn't because he wasn't interested, Walker said. It's just that he was busy with his company, Renaissance Man Food Services, and he doesn't believe in doing anything just a little bit. That's why he told his employees that if they called him while he was training at AKA that they would be summarily fired, and also why he's spent the better part of the last year living in a hotel just to be near the gym.

    "I live in a hotel," Walker said. "A great hotel, the Fairmont, so maybe they'll give me a cheaper rate, but I live in a hotel. And I have a beautiful home in Dallas, and I live in a hotel, with little bitty rooms, no Showtime."

    But while Walker – who was described several times by Strikeforce officials as one of the world's greatest athletes – gets all the attention, it's not as if he'll be alone in the cage on Saturday.

    Instead he'll be facing 4-1 fighter Scott Carson, who appeared every bit as recalcitrant as Walker was gregarious during the brief presser, and who, at times, seemed barely capable of raising his voice to an audible volume. He answered questions quietly and briefly, and seemed less like a fighter eager to jump in the cage than one who was slightly embarrassed by the attention.

    "Herschel's a big name because of his legacy," the soft-spoken Carson said. "I know I've just got to go out and prove myself, because although I have a lot more fights, I'm definitely the lesser-known guy. It's a big opportunity and I put myself through a pretty strenuous training camp."

    Carson called the initial postponement of the bout "a blessing," because he said it gave him an opportunity to get more training time in before returning to the cage for only the second time since 2001. After reeling off four straight wins in the first three years of his career, Carson said a "serious back injury" forced him to take some time off and led to him focusing on business rather than fighting.

    "I just came back to train and then the guys at the gym kept pushing me to fight," he said. "That's how it happened."

    It's not exactly the all-or-nothing attitude exemplified by Walker, but Carson said that as soon as he got offered the fight against the former NFL star he changed gyms, heading off to train with UFC fighter Mark Munoz at Reign Training Center in Lake Forest, Calif.

    "I'm pretty fortunate to get this fight," said Carson. "I know that. If I don't make the most of it, it's all for naught. I don't know what my role is, but I'm going to do my best. I came prepared."

    As for Walker's role, that seems fairly clear. Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker described this as just another part of Walker's "martial arts journey" – one which extends all the way back to his playing days at the University of Georgia, according to Coker.

    "He said that on Saturdays he would run for the school, and on Sundays he would go to a traditional karate tournament and compete," Coker said, relaying a story told to him by Walker. "So in traditional karate tournaments, he'd walk back into the dorm with a trophy. The coaches would say, 'Hey Herschel, you've to stop that stuff. That karate stuff is bad for you and you need to stop it. You're going to get hurt, and you'll be drafted next year.' You can imagine what the conversation was like. So finally they gave Herschel an ultimatum, and he said to the coach, 'Well, if that's the case, maybe I'll just stop playing football.' That's how much he loved martial arts. And I'm sure the coach said, 'No, no, that's okay. We'll see you next [Saturday].'"

    You could argue that Walker is similarly as valuable to Strikeforce as he was to his college coaches, if only for his PR appeal. He may not have a title run in him, but he does attract a lot of media attention, even if that doesn't always lead to more attention for Strikeforce.

    For instance, the conversation that sprang up about whether he could still play in the NFL was taken out of context, he insisted, but it did manage to overshadow the news of the fight itself in many media sources.

    "Like I've always said, people are going to have something to write no matter what. It has nothing to do with fighting. They just want media to get attention. What was said about football wasn't even what I spoke about. And the attention, I've been getting the attention since I was about 15, a long time ago, probably before you were even born. I don't even think about it."

    Still, the fact that the former Heisman Trophy winner who is, by his own admission, "a little bit weird," is devoting himself to MMA? That should be newsworthy enough, and at least so far it has been. Even if it means his chicken company gets sadly ignored for the time being.

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    Nick Diaz: 'Cyborg' Santos Better Than Other Potential Strikeforce Challengers

    SAN JOSE – Unlike recent Strikeforce conference calls, there was no rancor and not even the hint of a rant when the fighters gathered for a subdued press conference to promote Saturday night's Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Cyborg event at the HP Pavilion.

    Welterweight champ Nick Diaz expressed admiration and respect for the challenger, Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos, as well as for Santos' wife, women's 145-pound Strikeforce champ Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos, who was also in attendance.

    "I think he's a great fighter," Diaz said of the male "Cyborg." "He's better than the other guys they had in line."

    In fact, Diaz suggested that perhaps Santos, who is known for his aggressive fighting style, would be a bigger star in the world of MMA right now if only he'd moved down to the 170-pound division sooner, rather than waiting until the 13th year of his career to make his welterweight debut in a TKO victory over Marius Zaromskis last June.

    "I think maybe he should have been fighting at 170 pounds a long time ago. He would have beat some name fighters and we would have seen some more of him," said Diaz. "...He was in there fighting with heavier guys who were throwing him down. They were a little bit too big for him. The way I see it, I'm too big for him, and then these guys were really too big for him and they threw him down. Otherwise, he'd be just as popular as anybody out here."

    For his part, Santos said via an interpreter that since he walks around near the 185-pound middleweight limit, the move to the welterweight class made sense. Now, with just one fight at that weight, he finds himself facing a champion who's known for his ability to maintain a fast pace for all five rounds.

    That has some people wondering how Santos, who likes to come charging out of the gates, will fare if the fight goes into the championship rounds.

    Santos insisted that he's focused a lot on strength and conditioning for the Diaz fight, and offered a "guarantee" that he'd have plenty of gas in the tank down the stretch. And the fact that he now finds himself in the championship spotlight with a chance to bring a second Strikeforce title to the Santos home?

    "I don't feel any pressure at all," he said. "[Cristiane] has fought and trained and deserves her belt, which she's earned. My 15 years of training, hopefully on Saturday I get to fight and make my mark and get my belt."

    Santos claimed he didn't have specific strategy for dealing with Diaz's unorthodox style, though at least the feeling seems to be somewhat mutual. Diaz admitted that while he had done what he could to get used to Santos' hyper-aggressive approach, it's not the kind of the thing that translates easily in sparring.

    "I think he's a unique fighter. He fights the way he fights. It's hard to find a lot of guys who will do that, and fight the way he fights. But I've trained with some of the best people," Diaz said, listing off some of the notable kickboxers he's worked with – such as Kit Cope – before admitting that, actually, they aren't too much like the hard-charging Santos after all.

    For Santos, whose career has lately been overshadowed by his wife's tremendous success, the stakes on Saturday night are as high as they've ever been. Though he tried to play it cool behind his pair of black sunglasses at Thursday's presser, it was plainly evident that that face was not lost on him.

    "It's been 15 years of sacrifice," Santos said via his interpreter. "It's a big fight for me, a life-changing fight for me."

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    Mauro Ranallo reports for Showtime Sports where Nick Diaz, Evangelista Cyborg, Robbie Lawler, Roger Gracie and Herschel Walker have assembled for the first great Strikeforce event of 2011.
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