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    Latest Round of Drug Tests Complete, Alistair Overeem Turns Attention Back to Training

    UFC heavyweight Alistair Overeem flew from the Netherlands to London late last night all for -- depending on how well hydrated he is -- what will probably amount to less than a few minutes of work. That's because priority number one for Overeem this week is to take a drug test that the Nevada State Athletic Commission will accept, and then to return to training as soon as possible.

    And he does mean as soon as possible.

    Speaking from his hotel room in London late last night, Overeem outlined his plan to take the test and then immediately return to his training camp in the Netherlands, where he'll remain until just after Christmas in order to spend as much time with his ailing mother as possible before he meets Brock Lesnar at UFC 141 on December 30.

    "It is unfortunate that all this stuff is happening at the same time, but then again, if you operate on this level it's hardly ever perfect," Overeem said of a hectic week that included defending his recent travels to the NSAC on Monday and battling questions about whether he'd intentionally tried to avoid a drug test. "There's always something going on."

    NSAC executive director Keith Kizer confirmed to MMA Fighting that Overeem had taken the drug screening at approximately noon London time on Wednesday. Kizer also said the NSAC had never dealt with an issue quite like this one, though the commission is still expecting to receive the results of Overeem's December 7 screening -- a test deemed insufficient because it was taken through Overeem's personal doctor in the Netherlands and then sent to a lab in Germany -- some time later this week.

    Though Overeem was granted a conditional license by the NSAC, it's contingent on his drug screenings coming back clear before his UFC debut, and on him taking two more random tests at his own expense in the next six months -- a schedule that will make him "the most tested fighter," Overeem said.

    At Monday's hearing, much of the blame for the communication breakdown that resulted in Overeem missing his original drug test deadline was heaped on Overeem's assistant, Collin Lam. But now that he's had a chance to assess the situation more fully, Overeem said, he stands by Lam's efforts.

    "I've recently seen the communications, and in my opinion, my assistant was working to the best of his ability. I didn't have a direct line of communication with the commission. They could have contacted me directly and given me instructions."

    It's just one distraction of many for Overeem of late. The Dutch heavyweight split with his longtime management at Golden Glory in September over what he termed a "breach of trust," and then moved his training camp to Las Vegas' Xtreme Couture gym to prepare for Lesnar. In November, however, Overeem left Vegas to return home to the Netherlands to see to his ailing mother, who he said is dealing with the after-effects of "harsh treatments" for cancer.

    "My mother's situation, of course, it's hard," said Overeem. "She had cancer before two times. Two tumors, the worst ones, were the most aggressive ones. She had the most harsh treatment you can imagine. But the thing is, physically she's not fully recovered, [and] mentally...she had a test recently where they found some suspicious cells, so mentally she's very nervous. That's a little bit hard. That alone is a bit of a distraction, but I have gotten all my training in."

    Of course, it's not easy to prepare for a fight with a former NCAA wrestling champion back home in Holland, Overeem admitted. There might be plenty of skilled kickboxers hanging around, but the former Strikeforce heavyweight champ had to fly in some other sparring partners, he said.

    It's a lot to deal with, and all less than three weeks before what will likely be one of the biggest fights of his career. But then, Overeem said, he asked for this. The UFC gave him the option of sitting out and facing the winner of the Junior dos Santos-Cain Velasquez fight in November, but Overeem chose to fight Lesnar instead, simply because he wants to "be active," he said.

    "I want to get in there. That's the way the fans see you do your thing."

    Now that the latest round of tests are complete, all he can do now is wait for the NSAC to get the results while he tries to make the most of the time he has left in the gym.
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    War Overeem!!!!!!! sloop die redneck!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefxr View Post
    dat afzeiken valt wel mee, het gaat meer om de naïviteit van een grote groep
    Misschien, maar waarom zouden mensen per definitie van het negatieve uit moeten gaan? Wanneer er bewijs is, dan is het aangetoond, maar tot die tijd is er niets naïef aan om nog geen conclusies te trekken.

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    Mooi zo
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    Mooi stukje van Kenny Rice:

    THE CLOUD OVER OVEREEM

    There is this cloud that hovers over him. It’s a big cloud, for he is a big man. It just always hangs there, like the nimbostratus cloud that blocks the sun. A dark, foreboding object that brings heavy storms. The one that follows him like a mean-spirited shadow is filled with the thunder and lightning of rumor, insinuation and doubt. These are incredibly ferocious obstacles to take on, even if he is 6’5’’ and somewhere in the neighborhood of 270 pounds.
    Alistair Overeem isn’t oblivious to this, he is simply vague about any defense, any concrete evidence to once and for all end the guessing. On Monday he faced an opponent as tough as any he has, the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He wasn’t there in person, but in essence testified via phone from his native Holland. Typically it still wasn’t all that clear after lengthy questions and answers. He had taken the required drug test, kind of. Not one through an accepted agency, rather one administered by his personal doctor.
    The big man is finally stepping up into the world of big boy sports with the UFC, no more coddling, no scrambling to find a state for his rare U.S. appearances that isn’t as stringent in testing as combative sports powerhouse Nevada has always been. He rules Japan and Europe, there are no questions needed but he knows it is different in this state and this organization.
    With this, the Commission had offered up the best thing anyone ever has to Overeem, a chance to squelch all those veiled accusations, the behind his back whispers, the wink-winks from foes who on talk shows dance as deftly as Jennifer Lopez around what they really want to say.
    The NSAC has granted him a conditional license to fight Brock Lesnar in UFC 141. But here in the very real world of the big time, he must first be tested at an authorized clinic in the United Kingdom, which presumably at the time of this writing he has. Then he will be tested again when he comes back to the States in a few days. And there will be at least two more random tests at Overeem’s personal expense further along after his Lesnar fight.
    It isn’t that Overeem is being singled out or punished, it is the way it works with Nevada and the UFC, rules, regulations and standards. His opponent has already complied and is ready to go, but this week there have been the rumors that replacements for Overeem are already being lined up. That “just in case something happens” that has become too common for a proven fighter of his caliber.
    Always rumors. Ones that have grown like a virus since Overeem has grown, literally, from the middleweight who beat Vitor Belfort and lost to Mauricio Rua in the Pride tournament in 2005 to the oh-so-sizable factor he became in the heavyweight ranks less than two years later.
    There is no clear-cut evidence of anything other than hard work to build a mammoth physique, and that is unfair to Overeem. While not exactly as in the court of law, he has been found speculative until proven otherwise by many fans and media. He’s just so darn huge, and strong and fast. Could all that be real? Could he have just out hustled and out trained his peers to be this way? Perhaps he has. Perhaps it is the horsemeat diet, which should be even more available now that President Obama is on board with equine cuisine shipped abroad.
    But his often flippant attitude about seemingly everything, his conflicting explanations about pulling out of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Tournament among them. Plus subsequently leaving that group this year, has only pulled the cloud down more around his massive shoulders.
    Even the Commission was surprised that he had left the U.S. without clearing up the mandatory test situation. He went home to see about his ailing mother, certainly noble and beyond reproach. No one can argue that. It’s just he was stealth like in departing. For a man of his size, he does seem to pop out of sight surprisingly easy.
    Still there is no denying what a splendid talent he is, the only man to hold the Strikeforce, Dream and K-1 heavyweight titles simultaneously, an enormous feat of historic proportions in the combative sports world. His presence alone makes most opponents shudder. The UFC doesn’t roll the dice; they saw such a threatening striker that even his spat with their now partner Strikeforce wasn’t an issue in signing him to a deal.
    Overeem is that good, and controversy never harms a ticket sale. But until all this is out of the way, and he is in the Octagon against former champ Lesnar, he remains the family’s wacky Uncle Ernie at Christmas time where the older kids explain to the younger siblings why he gets his own special bowl of eggnog. It is that way, and has been too long on planet Overeem.
    He understood the MMA world wasn’t revolving around him when he finally signed the UFC contract. He had to know there would be more scrutiny about everything that he has previously been able to slide by like most everyone who stepped toe to toe with him in the ring.
    If all these tests coming up are passed, no one has more right to boldly scream out, ”I TOLD YOU SO” than Overeem. It would be that moment of clarity that has been shaded deep gray. The one moment that can sweep away the cloud with a mighty gust, where all could focus only on Overeem and how good he can be in the UFC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naj85 View Post
    Is dat misschien Collina?
    Ben z'n assistent niet, maar z'n Checkmate.

    Ben overigens ook geen Aziaat

    Gr. Collina

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    Ik zat me af te vragen waarom Overeem niet gewoon via de Nederlands Doping Autoriteit een gecertificeerde doping test gedaan heeft? De Nederlandse Doping Autoriteit is tenslotte aangesloten bij de WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency). Het blijkt dus dat de WADA al een tijdje scherpe kritiek heeft op de UFC hoe zij de dopingtests regelen via al die Athletic State Commissions. Het is onoverzichtelijk, schimmig en de advocaten doen er alles aan om strengere tests tegen te houden. Het is allemaal poppenkast in de States...

    Een wielrenner kan door de WADA bijv. wel 3 keer per dag een out of comptition test voor z'n kiezen krijgen om maar te zwijgen over de verplichte whereabouts-systeem die communistische trekjes heeft...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollermanskunk View Post
    Mooi stukje van Kenny Rice:

    THE CLOUD OVER OVEREEM

    There is this cloud that hovers over him. It’s a big cloud, for he is a big man. It just always hangs there, like the nimbostratus cloud that blocks the sun. A dark, foreboding object that brings heavy storms. The one that follows him like a mean-spirited shadow is filled with the thunder and lightning of rumor, insinuation and doubt. These are incredibly ferocious obstacles to take on, even if he is 6’5’’ and somewhere in the neighborhood of 270 pounds.
    Alistair Overeem isn’t oblivious to this, he is simply vague about any defense, any concrete evidence to once and for all end the guessing. On Monday he faced an opponent as tough as any he has, the Nevada State Athletic Commission. He wasn’t there in person, but in essence testified via phone from his native Holland. Typically it still wasn’t all that clear after lengthy questions and answers. He had taken the required drug test, kind of. Not one through an accepted agency, rather one administered by his personal doctor.
    The big man is finally stepping up into the world of big boy sports with the UFC, no more coddling, no scrambling to find a state for his rare U.S. appearances that isn’t as stringent in testing as combative sports powerhouse Nevada has always been. He rules Japan and Europe, there are no questions needed but he knows it is different in this state and this organization.
    With this, the Commission had offered up the best thing anyone ever has to Overeem, a chance to squelch all those veiled accusations, the behind his back whispers, the wink-winks from foes who on talk shows dance as deftly as Jennifer Lopez around what they really want to say.
    The NSAC has granted him a conditional license to fight Brock Lesnar in UFC 141. But here in the very real world of the big time, he must first be tested at an authorized clinic in the United Kingdom, which presumably at the time of this writing he has. Then he will be tested again when he comes back to the States in a few days. And there will be at least two more random tests at Overeem’s personal expense further along after his Lesnar fight.
    It isn’t that Overeem is being singled out or punished, it is the way it works with Nevada and the UFC, rules, regulations and standards. His opponent has already complied and is ready to go, but this week there have been the rumors that replacements for Overeem are already being lined up. That “just in case something happens” that has become too common for a proven fighter of his caliber.
    Always rumors. Ones that have grown like a virus since Overeem has grown, literally, from the middleweight who beat Vitor Belfort and lost to Mauricio Rua in the Pride tournament in 2005 to the oh-so-sizable factor he became in the heavyweight ranks less than two years later.
    There is no clear-cut evidence of anything other than hard work to build a mammoth physique, and that is unfair to Overeem. While not exactly as in the court of law, he has been found speculative until proven otherwise by many fans and media. He’s just so darn huge, and strong and fast. Could all that be real? Could he have just out hustled and out trained his peers to be this way? Perhaps he has. Perhaps it is the horsemeat diet, which should be even more available now that President Obama is on board with equine cuisine shipped abroad.
    But his often flippant attitude about seemingly everything, his conflicting explanations about pulling out of the Strikeforce Heavyweight Tournament among them. Plus subsequently leaving that group this year, has only pulled the cloud down more around his massive shoulders.
    Even the Commission was surprised that he had left the U.S. without clearing up the mandatory test situation. He went home to see about his ailing mother, certainly noble and beyond reproach. No one can argue that. It’s just he was stealth like in departing. For a man of his size, he does seem to pop out of sight surprisingly easy.
    Still there is no denying what a splendid talent he is, the only man to hold the Strikeforce, Dream and K-1 heavyweight titles simultaneously, an enormous feat of historic proportions in the combative sports world. His presence alone makes most opponents shudder. The UFC doesn’t roll the dice; they saw such a threatening striker that even his spat with their now partner Strikeforce wasn’t an issue in signing him to a deal.
    Overeem is that good, and controversy never harms a ticket sale. But until all this is out of the way, and he is in the Octagon against former champ Lesnar, he remains the family’s wacky Uncle Ernie at Christmas time where the older kids explain to the younger siblings why he gets his own special bowl of eggnog. It is that way, and has been too long on planet Overeem.
    He understood the MMA world wasn’t revolving around him when he finally signed the UFC contract. He had to know there would be more scrutiny about everything that he has previously been able to slide by like most everyone who stepped toe to toe with him in the ring.
    If all these tests coming up are passed, no one has more right to boldly scream out, ”I TOLD YOU SO” than Overeem. It would be that moment of clarity that has been shaded deep gray. The one moment that can sweep away the cloud with a mighty gust, where all could focus only on Overeem and how good he can be in the UFC.
    Weg imago, was goed opgebouwd en toen kwam het "nieuwe" management, niet berijkbaar, bonnetjes kwijt, mobiele telefoon storingen, alistair niet berijkbaar in "nieuwe" trainingcamp ( wow 14 uur per dag trainen of zo?).

    How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.


    He prepares evil for himself who plots mischief for others.


    Every mans sin falls on his own head.


    Every sin carries its own punishment.


    He falls into the pit who leads another to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollermanskunk View Post
    Ik zat me af te vragen waarom Overeem niet gewoon via de Nederlands Doping Autoriteit een gecertificeerde doping test gedaan heeft? De Nederlandse Doping Autoriteit is tenslotte aangesloten bij de WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency). Het blijkt dus dat de WADA al een tijdje scherpe kritiek heeft op de UFC hoe zij de dopingtests regelen via al die Athletic State Commissions. Het is onoverzichtelijk, schimmig en de advocaten doen er alles aan om strengere tests tegen te houden. Het is allemaal poppenkast in de States...

    Een wielrenner kan door de WADA bijv. wel 3 keer per dag een out of comptition test voor z'n kiezen krijgen om maar te zwijgen over de verplichte whereabouts-systeem die communistische trekjes heeft...

    Als je al die berichten leest zou je denken dat alleen de Amerikaanse state commissions professioneel en de rest van de wereld een stel stumpers zijn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davinci View Post
    Weg imago, was goed opgebouwd en toen kwam het "nieuwe" management, niet berijkbaar, bonnetjes kwijt, mobiele telefoon storingen, alistair niet berijkbaar in "nieuwe" trainingcamp ( wow 14 uur per dag trainen of zo?).

    How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.


    He prepares evil for himself who plots mischief for others.


    Every mans sin falls on his own head.


    Every sin carries its own punishment.


    He falls into the pit who leads another to it.
    Dus...Zodoende..

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    Quote Originally Posted by davinci View Post
    Weg imago, was goed opgebouwd en toen kwam het "nieuwe" management, niet berijkbaar, bonnetjes kwijt, mobiele telefoon storingen, alistair niet berijkbaar in "nieuwe" trainingcamp ( wow 14 uur per dag trainen of zo?).

    How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.


    He prepares evil for himself who plots mischief for others.


    Every mans sin falls on his own head.


    Every sin carries its own punishment.


    He falls into the pit who leads another to it.
    works both ways my friend.....
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    en trouwens, als je sherdog en andere amerikaanse forums bekijkt is er volgens mij niks aan de hand met het image van Ali, jammer dat je dat zo wilt benadrukken steeds... het is nog steeds overal war ubereem etc etc etc... beetje jammer dat zwartmakerij en erg simpel..
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    Quote Originally Posted by davinci View Post
    Weg imago, was goed opgebouwd en toen kwam het "nieuwe" management, niet berijkbaar, bonnetjes kwijt, mobiele telefoon storingen, alistair niet berijkbaar in "nieuwe" trainingcamp ( wow 14 uur per dag trainen of zo?).
    Tjah, vroeger deed die rus het licht voor hem voor hem uit, nu moet ie zelf als laatste de gym uit.

    PS. leuke woordspeling be"rijk"baar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davinci View Post
    Weg imago, was goed opgebouwd en toen kwam het "nieuwe" management, niet berijkbaar, bonnetjes kwijt, mobiele telefoon storingen, alistair niet berijkbaar in "nieuwe" trainingcamp ( wow 14 uur per dag trainen of zo?).

    How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.


    He prepares evil for himself who plots mischief for others.


    Every mans sin falls on his own head.


    Every sin carries its own punishment.


    He falls into the pit who leads another to it.
    Jammer genoeg telt dit ook voor jou (laffe backstabber) en golden glory.

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    whom falls in the pit, shows the rest where it sit(s)

    how people treat you, you show them

    every man's sin, is tomorrows problem ( if he gets caught)

    every sin can be forgiven, as long as u know some1 that sinned (just a little bit) more

    en tot slot 1 van mij...

    de enigen waarvan hun mening er toe zou moeten doen, zijn zij die jou kunnen geven... de schoen.
    hij die zich boeit wat door de rest wordt geroepen, moet deel gaan nemen aan psychiatrische praatgroepen
    hij die denkt dat zijn mening een ander boeit, is de domste idioot die uit zijn ouders is voortgevloeid

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    Quote Originally Posted by rene37 View Post
    Goh? Noem eens een stof die na 6 dgn niet meer traceerbaar is in het bloed en die voor een vechtsporter interessant is? En wat bedoel je met voor iemand met veel geld? Zo duur is dat spul niet hoor. Of doel je op hgh? mwah een kleine 225,-euri voor iets waar je weken mee doet, is niet veel geld toch?
    Testosterone base..... zonder ester is zo je lichaam uit... met enkele uren...
    hgh testen ze niet op.... bestaat nog geen goede test voor... dus reken maar dat ali op minstens 10 iu's per dag zit....
    dan doe je met een kitje niet een aantal weken hoor... maar slechts 10 dagen.... en 225 is nog duur... als je een goede source hebt betaal je 1,2 dollar per iu.... bestel je bulk 1 dollar per iu...
    Test suspensie + HGH.....
    andere middelen kunnen gebruikt worden , maar buiten het seizoen om....
    de meeste steroiden zijn met een aantal maanden het systeem uit.. m.u.v nandrolone dat is zo'n 18 maand na gebruik nog aan te tonen.
    verder is epo een supermiddel voor vechters....en kan gebruikt worden ondanks tests, wielrenners doen t ook....
    verder heb je een hele lijst met designer steroids waar ze niet eens op testen....
    mogelijkheden genoeg....
    dat mensen denken dat atleten schoon zijn als ze "clean" testen ... lol!
    testen zeggen niks.... kijk toch naar hun fysiek! brock = huge... ali = huge... duh!!!!
    haal ze maar eens een paar maand van de saus af..... krijg je gasten van in de 90 kilo....

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    Last edited by Soulbringer320; 15-12-2011 at 20:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefxr View Post
    is al blocked, heb je nog een backup link?
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