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    Quote Originally Posted by ArjanV View Post
    Ik blijf me verbazen over het feit hoe weinig vechtsportliefhebbers weten over anabolica of,en dat is misschien wel erger, hoe naief ze er over zijn! Topsport zonder anabolica bestaat niet meer ook niet in het MMA! Ik weet niet wanneer mevrouw getest is maar Winstrol (Stanazolol) werd vroeger al gebruikt (Ben Johnson) en nu nog steeds omdat het snel niet meer traceerbaar is! Wanneer je nu gepakt zou worden met Nandrolon ben je oliedom omdat dat juist heel lang traceerbaar is. En natuurlijk heb je voordeel van gebruik je herstelt bijvoorbeeld veel sneller waardoor je meer trainingsarbeid kunt verrichten,meer kracht,in sommige gevallen meer spermassa. Dat hoeft niemand van mij aan te nemen natuurlijk maar als een Joop Kasteel dat al zegt..
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    lekker boeiend of hij gebruikt
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefxr View Post
    je doelt op winstrol, waar ben johson al in 1988 werd op gepakt en dan anno 2011 denken dat je er mee wegkomt,lol
    Precies wat ik al in gedachte had toen ik las dat het stanozolol betreft en idd de testen zijn anno 2011/12 nog veel acurater geworden dan in 1988 echt oliedom dus dit.............

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    Updated: January 6, 2012, 7:20 PM ET
    Cristiane 'Cyborg' Santos suspended
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    The California State Athletic Commission on Friday announced it suspended the license of Strikeforce women's featherweight champion Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos for one year, fined her $2,500 and changed a Dec. 17 victory to a "no decision."

    A urine sample dropped the day before her title defense against Hiroko Yamanka came back positive for stanozolol metabolites, the CSAC revealed. Santos' sample was observed by a CSAC representative and sent to a World Anti-Doping Agency facility at UCLA.

    Santos can appeal the suspension of her license, which is applied retroactively to Dec. 16.

    Santos, 26, is widely considered the dominant female fighter in mixed martial arts. The Brazilian stopped Yamanaka on a Strikeforce card in San Diego in 16 seconds, putting her record at 11-1 before the change in result.

    "Our primary concern is for the health and safety of fighters," said CSAC Executive Officer George Dodd. "Anabolic agents and other banned substances put not only the users of those agents at risk, but their opponents as well. The commission simply will not tolerate their use."

    Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

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    "If you have to stop and think, it's too late"

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    Can You Beat Anabolic Steroid Tests?
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    There is a maxim in police work that goes powering every single crime there is a motive. So it is with bodybuilding and most other sports activities. Everybody can bear in mind Lee Haney's, Dorian Yates', and Ronnie Coleman's string of Mr. Olympia victories, but attempt naming who positioned 2nd to these three excellent bodybuilders each and every yr. At the expert and top newbie sports' degree, the prime motive for powerful teaching is the want to be quantity a single. The 2nd major purpose is greed. Athletic achievement can be transformed into a monetary bonanza by means of endorsements, guest appearances, and professional sport contracts. Granted the possible rewards athletic good results can carry, it need to not come as a surprise that some athletes may well pick to shift the odds far more in their favor. The following are some of the more frequent (each productive and unsuccessful) methods utilised by athletes to conquer anabolic steroid exams.
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    KING AGENTS In a by no means-ending quest by athletes to find a strategy to pass a drug test, the use of blocking agents has become a properly traveled route. Blocking agents are medicines that athletes "feel" will enable them to use anabolic steroids right up to the time of competition. The phrase "think" is emphasized because the effectiveness of blocking agents is much more myth than fact.
    To use an example, permit us appear at the drug, Probenecid, which was originally developed to slow the body's fee of excretion of the antibiotic penicillin. Probenecid has also been proven to slow the fee of excretion of the class of drugs called keto-steroids. Upon listening to this, many athletes assumed that Probenecid would also sluggish the rate of excretion of anabolic steroids. Probenecid, however, is not really effective at doing this, and even if it was, it is on the banned substances record of most sports' federations, and is very easily detected in a drug test.<
    /p> DIURETICS
    Diuretics are used to dilute the urine by rising the excretion of drinking water. Some bodybuilders have utilised diuretics to pace up the excretion of all medicines in their methods. To counteract this, drug testers employ a approach known as the specific gravity check. Testers review the excess weight of a compound to the weight of an equal quantity of drinking water, which has a particular gravity of one. If an athlete dilutes his/her urine, the certain gravity will be a lot lower than standard. There is, however, some controversy as to what assortment is appropriate as a regular specific gravity appeal for urine. As with blocking agents, most sports' federations have extra diuretics to its record of banned substances. Diuretics are a very poor way to conquer anabolic steroid checks.
    SUBSTITUTION
    Another strategy of cheating is the substitution of a non-drug user's "thoroughly clean" urine for the athlete's possess. A documented strateg
    y employed by some feminine bodybuilders and other athletes is to conceal a condom crammed with "thoroughly clean" urine in the vagina. When the athlete is called on to create a sample, a speedy jab with a fingernail breaks the condom and releases the "cleanse" urine sample. To avert this slight of hand by athletes, officials now apply near monitoring. CATHETERIZATION
    This is an severe technique of substitution and making an attempt to conquer anabolic steroid tests. By making use of a catheter (a prolonged skinny rubber tube) that passes through the urethra to the bladder, an athlete can empty his/her own bladder and refill it with "cleanse" urine. If this procedure is done improperly it can outcome in severe infection, hemorrhage, and/or rupture of the bladder. There is an ironic aspect to this method. Due to the fact of the sensitivity of drug tests, the athlete may possibly even now be caught. When the athlete empties his/her bladder, there is nonetheless adequate flu
    id adhering to the walls of the bladder to contaminate the "clean" urine. Furthermore, the athlete's kidneys are constantly filtering the blood, and hence excreting urine into the bladder, adding yet another supply of contamination. CYCLING ANABOLIC STEROIDS AND RETIREMENT
    Anabolic steroids are a training drug. They are not stimulants and never offer any advantage in the course of or just prior to a competition. Most bodybuilders are watchful to confine their steroid use to the off-year. This makes certain that the advantages of the anabolic steroids can be exploited with no the threat of staying caught. A single way jeu federations offer with this, is to have random drug screening during the year. But this is quite high-priced, and can be very easily defeated.
    Some athletes avoid random drug tests by coaching in other countries. Athletes who get homesick have an additional choice, early retirement. While this implies a reduction of funding, the athlete can eve
    n now prepare on medicines, and then make a comeback. An athlete can, for case in point, retire soon after one Olympiad, use medicines and practice for the subsequent 3 many years, and then arrive out of retirement in time to make the group for the following Olympiad, without ever before being drug tested. One more approach jeu organizations have to combat drug use in the off-year, is the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio. This drug exam was deemed to be very effective because it could detect the use of anabolic steroids, extended soon after the drug was out of the athlete's program. Athletes, nonetheless, have come up with an powerful countermeasure to anabolic steroid assessments of this type.
    The testosterone to epitestosterone ratio has been 1 of the most effective drug assessments available given that 1982. Athletes, even so, learned a simple countermeasure that totally invalidates this examination. Considering that anabolic steroid use raises the ratio of tes
    tosterone to epitestosterone, all an athlete has to do is inject pure epitestosterone, and the ratio can as soon as once more be brought back to 1:1. It is claimed that injections in an hour of a drug examination can make a adverse result. As talked about earlier, there is no actual elimination time for any certain steroid. A lot of elements influence the fee of excretion of steroids from the user's program. For illustration if an athlete is employing vitamin and/or mineral preparations, sunlight-tanning tablets, or even some kinds of around-the-counter medicines, the capability of the liver to process steroids could be inhibited. Hence, a lengthier time for clearance could be needed. These kinds of important factors as approach of administration, place of injection internet site, the sort of steroids used, length of use, physique-excess fat amount, sum of water in the body, and dosage utilized, all perform essential roles in deciding the clearance time. There is a single c
    ertain method for athletes to pass anabolic steroid checks obey the rules of the levels of competition, and keep drug totally free.

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    wat ik me afvraag...

    Stel dat Chris Cyborg een urinesample moet afstaan... zal zij dan staand pissen als een echte vent? Of gewoon zittend als een vrouw?


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Bambino View Post
    Zo zo, een Expert in onze midden. Gebruik je ook ?
    Yep....net als zovelen...
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    Joe Rogan:

    We're going to be covering this tomorrow on my podcast with a doctor that's an expert in hormones and potential false positives through tainted supplements. His stance is basically that it's 100% horseshit and that she was taking steroids.

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    We're going to be covering this tomorrow on my podcast with a doctor that's an expert in hormones and potential false positives through tainted supplements. His stance is basically that it's 100% horseshit and that she was taking steroids.
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    het lijkt me vrij duidelijk.

    tuurlijk is het zo dat heel veel vechters gebruiken, ook al is bij sommige niet op het oog te zien.

    lang werkerde esters zijn naar mijn meneing geen strak plan.
    maar je ziet dat er heel veel gepakt worden met winny ( stanazolol ) alleen wat ik me afvraag, nu krijg je daar flink last van je pezen van.. hoe doen die vechters dat dan?? zou glucosamine daarvoor genoeg doen??

    lijkt me niet fijn trainen. maar daar zullen ze dan wel weer wat op hebben hahah

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    Bij Cyborg was het een kwestie van "wanneer".

    Toch zijn ook de mensen waaruit het minder valt te zien gebruikers, wacht maar als ze echt strenge controles invoeren zoals bij het wielrennen, dan blijft er geen ufc meer over.

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    Het kan natuurlijk ook gewoon zo zijn, dat Cyborg dacht dat ze iets anders nam, maar dat het (deels) winnie bleek te zijn...
    Ben Johnson is indertijd trouwens gewoon genaaid



    Moet altijd wel heel erg lachen om mensen die denken dat dopingtesten betrouwbaar zijn.
    Nog afgezien van wat het financieel kost om 1 atleet op alle mogelijke vormen van doping te betrappen....
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    daar komt de penis uit de mouw

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    Quote Originally Posted by redjuh View Post
    daar komt de penis uit de mouw
    Brazilian mega clit from hell


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    'Cyborg' Santos' Positive Steroid Test Not Surprising, But Not All Bad, Either

    News that Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos tested positive for steroids following her last Strikeforce 145-pound title defense provoked a wide range of responses last week, but shock wasn't one of them. Some reacted with bitter disappointment, others with cynical detachment, but no one who's ever so much as seen a picture of the Brazilian fighter can say that they haven't at least considered the possibility that her biceps might have gotten that way via some not-so-natural processes.

    For as long as she's been in the spotlight, that's kind of been Santos' thing. She's the woman with the muscles, the female fighter who looks every bit as terrifying as she fights. The positive steroid test just confirmed what most fans already suspected: there's a reason you don't see more women like "Cyborg" running around.

    Maybe that's what's so disappointing about this whole story. It just seems so obvious. It reminds us once again that the MMA world isn't some magical, mystical place. Instead, it's just like the rest of the world. When you suspect someone is a cheater, you eventually find out that you were right. Then you wonder why you ever gave them the benefit of the doubt to begin with.

    That's the real problem for Santos here. When Tim Sylvia popped positive and explained that he just wanted to look good with his shirt off, you could believe him. You took one look at his soggy, pasty torso and thought, yeah, if I had to go topless on TV I might be tempted to do something about that too.

    But because Santos has long been known as the heavily muscled, über-aggressive women's champ, one failed drug test provides an all-too convenient explanation for her exceptionalism and, rightly or wrongly, taints everything she's ever done. It makes it seem as if this is merely the first time she's been caught, but far from the first time she's ever used.

    Not that she's admitted to pumping herself up with stanozolol, of course. Instead she blamed it on an unnamed "dietary supplement" and copped to nothing more serious than a failure to fully investigate the banned substances list. If she were Roy Nelson, that explanation might fly. But Cyborg is Cyborg. When you look like she does, even the mere hint of guilt is more than enough to convict you in the court of public opinion.

    Naturally, people will wonder what this means for the future of the women's division. They wonder the same thing whenever anything interesting happens to a female fighter, and sometimes even when nothing happens at all. For now, Santos has been stripped of the title and the 145-pound division put on hold. And honestly? That's probably a good thing.

    For the past couple years, Santos wasn't just the champ in that division -- she was the division. How can you tell? For starters, it's a division that might as well not exist while she's suspended, as UFC president Dana White more or less admitted. Think about it: how many times have you watched a women's 145-pound bout in Strikeforce that wasn't a title fight? There aren't enough women at that weight to have a real division. It's just Santos beating up one fresh victim after another, many of whom have been cajoled into gaining weight just to get their faces smashed on TV.

    The real action in the women's division is at 135 pounds. Between Miesha Tate, Ronda Rousey, Sarah Kaufman, and Marloes Coenen (among others), there's a wealth of existing talent with more coming up all the time. Santos might have had a certain circus appeal -- again, probably for the very same reasons she now finds herself suspended -- but the competition is in the 135-pound class, where the fighters sport credible physiques and the interest isn't limited to one dominant champ.

    White loves to brag that he never gave in to the siren's song of freak show fights, even when his company was struggling. And while matching Santos up against one undersized opponent after another isn't exactly a freak show, neither is it indicative of a genuine interest in women's MMA. It's a sideshow. It's the scary lady with the muscles against whichever brave soul would take the fight. Now that that option has been eliminated, at least for the time being, White and his crew would be smart to move the spotlight further down the scale, where there's an actual division taking shape.

    Santos' current predicament is still disappointing, even if it's not surprising, but it doesn't have to be a negative for MMA. If the absence of Santos means a bigger share of the pie for the women who are (hopefully) competing clean against opponents their own size, it might just be the best thing that could have happened.

    And who knows, maybe Santos can use the forced vacation time to slim down and join her colleagues at a lower weight class. Tossing that "dietary supplement" in the trash might be a good way to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArjanV View Post
    Simpel uitgelegd...anabolica zijn afgeleid van het mannelijke hormoon testosteron...wanneer een vrouw anabolica gebruikt KAN zij daardoor feitelijk meer mannelijk worden wat zich vaak uit in de kaaklijn of een zwaardere stem...
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    Zag dit op facebook MMA discussion

    Bas Rutten: "If Cyborg wants to clear her name, simple, send the drink to the athletic commission, let them test it. I just don't believe they put it in drinks to LOSE weight. If they DO put roids in, show the drink and her name is cleared. It's what I would do. Like I said before, they all say 'I took something over the counter'. What? Tell us what you took? Help your fellow fighters not to make the same mistake by accident, just saying."
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    Bas Rutten is Correct...

    ArjanV REPS!
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    don`t cry about shit, take ownership!!!
    hard werken,hard trainen en genieten van het leven!!!

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    dus een jaar eruit! en daarna weer knokken voor die belt!...die pakt ze zo weer

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    Bij bodybuilder Tom Platz is niet alleen zn lichaam flink geslonken na zn wedstrijd carriere maar wonderwel ook zn kaak!!
    Platz had enorme kaken gekregen tijdens zn wedstrijdjaren,ben gewoon benieuwd wat er met de kaakpartij van Cris Cyborg gaat gebeuren aankomende tijd ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durfal View Post
    Bij bodybuilder Tom Platz is niet alleen zn lichaam flink geslonken na zn wedstrijd carriere maar wonderwel ook zn kaak!!
    Platz had enorme kaken gekregen tijdens zn wedstrijdjaren,ben gewoon benieuwd wat er met de kaakpartij van Cris Cyborg gaat gebeuren aankomende tijd ;-)
    Die wordt 2x zo groot want tijdens een schorsing wordt je niet gecontroleerd

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