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    ronde 2 had je aan bisping kunnen geven maar ronde 1 en vooral 3 waren voor sonnen
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    Sonnen deed in elke ronde een takedown en dat levert nu eenmaal punten op. Bisping kept it standing en dan moet je echt er nog iets verder bovenuit steken. Vond dit wel een hele goede partij. had ook verwacht dat sonnen pisding op zou rollen.

    Bisping heeft als vechter in ieder geval iets van mijn respect terug gewonnen. Als mens niet (maar sonnen is ook een eikel dus schijnbaar maakt het niet uit).

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelt View Post
    Evans deed het goed. Minder lay 'n pray dan vroeger. Betere standup. Jammer dat ze het niet over Tyrone, Hardonk en de Dutch connection hadden.
    Oh god.. het is dat Rashad geen leg kicks gooide, maar anders hadden we dat verhaaltje over de 'Dutch style of kickboxing' en de 'thump' bij het landen voor de miljoenste keer vast moeten aanhoren.

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    Ik vond dat Bisping het heel erg goed deed tegen Sonnen. Ik dacht echt dat hij opgevreten zou worden.

    Ik weet niet hoe ik het gevecht gescored had als ik een scoresheet voor m'n neus had gehad en inderdaad scherp op gescorede punten zou letten voor takedowns enzo, zou heel goed kunnen dat volgens de regels Sonnen de duidelijke winnaar is. Maar puur als toeschouwer vond ik dat Bisping hier als de winnaar uit is gekomen. Jammer dat er geen rondes 4 en 5 waren.

    Ik vond Rashad heel erg goed vanavond. Sonnen - Silva wil ik graag zien gewoon om de hele hype die er omheen gecreeerd is en ik benieuwd ben of hij de arena in Rio levend uit (of uberhaupt in) komt. Evans - Jones wil ik supergraag zien omdat dat volgens mij een heel goed gevecht wordt. Ik ben benieuwd of Jones z'n reach beter weet te gebruiken dan Davis deed, dat lukte hem bij Rampage wel in elk geval bijzonder goed.

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    UFC on FOX 2 Morning After: FOX Fights Fail to Deliver

    There was some great action in the Octagon at the United Center on Saturday night. Unfortunately, all of it was over before the FOX show got started.

    After a seven-fight preliminary card delivered one outstanding fight after another, the three-fight main card on the network was a disappointment. Between the three fights Fox broadcast on Saturday and the Junior dos Santos-Cain Velasquez fight in November (which was 59 minutes of talking surrounding one minute of fighting), there still hasn't been a really good UFC fight on network television yet.

    That's a shame. If Fox had shown the Fight of the Night from Evan Dunham vs. Nik Lentz, or Lavar Johnson's knockout of Joey Beltran, or Charles Oliveira's brilliant submission, millions of Americans would have seen what the UFC at its best looks like. Instead, millions of Americans saw three mediocre battles.

    The less said about Chris Weidman's decision win over Demian Maia, the better. That was simply not what anyone thinks of as a good MMA fight. Any curious newcomers to the UFC who turned the show on from the beginning probably changed the channel after the first round of that one.

    Chael Sonnen's fight with Michael Bisping was better, and the pro-Sonnen crowd was energetic, but that fight wasn't much to look at, either: Sonnen showed how to use superior wrestling and clinch work to win a decision, but the new fans the UFC wants to draw on Fox probably didn't find that too entertaining, either.

    And in the main event, Rashad Evans dominated Phil Davis for 25 minutes without ever coming close to finishing. If you know enough about MMA to appreciate that Davis is a very talented athlete, an NCAA champion wrestler and a rising star in the sport, you were probably impressed with how thoroughly Evans controlled him. But if you're new to MMA and had never seen Evans or Davis before, you probably figured at the end that you'd rather spend half an hour watching a Seinfeld rerun than watching a fight like that.

    The UFC and FOX both say they're in this for the long haul, and that they plan to grow the sport together. That's good, because this is going to take time. The UFC and Spike got lucky when the first Ultimate Fighter Finale had a sensational battle between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar. So far, there's been no such luck for the UFC and FOX. Through four live, televised fights, the network television viewers haven't seen much action.

    UFC on Fox 2 Notes
    -- Charles Oliveira has a ton of talent, and he looked better than ever fighting at 145 pounds for the first time in the UFC. The 22-year-old Oliveira needed just 1 minute, 43 seconds to submit Eric Wisely with a calf slicer, and he could be a future featherweight title contender.

    -- Mike Russow, a Chicago cop, got one of the best ovations I've ever heard before his fight with John-Olav Einemo. He also had one of the most surprising game plans I've ever seen when he repeatedly took Einemo down, even though Einemo is a world-class submission grappler. But it worked, as Russow stayed on top and out of trouble on the ground and won a decision. Russow isn't the prettiest fighter to watch, but he's 15-1 in his MMA career, including 4-0 in the Octagon. Think about this: If Alistair Overeem beats Junior dos Santos, Russow will have the longest winning streak in the UFC heavyweight division.

    "I can't believe I'm 4-0 in the UFC right now," Russow said afterward. "It's unbelievable. To have this fight in my hometown of Chicago and to have the fans cheering for me like they did...I couldn't ask for anything better. "

    -- Former Ultimate Fighter finalist Michael Johnson looked like he has improved both his striking and his submission defense since leaving Greg Jackson's gym and training full-time with the Blackzilians. The fans booed at times when Johnson clinched with Shane Roller and slowed down the pace of the fight, but it was good to see Johnson show some patience: In his last fight, against Paul Sass, he got a little too wild from the top and and was caught in a heel hook. This time Johnson fought safe and smart, and when Roller put him in a lot of trouble on the ground, Johnson kept his composure and got back to his feet. This was the best Johnson has looked.


    UFC on Fox 2 Quotes
    -- "This one sucks. You really hate to lose like this. I felt like I was doing alright and getting good back-and-forth with him. I felt like I had him, but I flat out got caught on this one."--Dustin Jacoby, following his third-round submission loss to Chris Carmozzi. Jacoby entered the UFC last year with a 6-0 record, but he's now 0-2 inside the Octagon and will probably be released.

    -- "This win shows that the Strikeforce heavyweights belong here. We're all on the same level and now we're getting a chance to prove it. And the fans are the ones benefitting from it the most because they're getting to see action like this."--Lavar Johnson after his impressive first-round knockout of Joey Beltran. I'm not prepared to say the Strikeforce heavyweights are "all on the same level" as the UFC heavyweights, but I do think Johnson is a great addition from Strikeforce.

    Good Call
    Referee Rob Madrigal stopped the Lavar Johnson-Joey Beltran fight at exactly the right time, just as Beltran was falling to the ground after repeated uppercuts from Johnson. Referees have a tough job when a fighter is taking a lot of punishment but still standing, and Madrigal stepped in just as Beltran lost the ability to defend himself. The Chicago Tribune ran a story last week questioning whether Madrigal was qualified enough to be refereeing a major card like UFC on Fox 2, but Madrigal acquitted himself nicely.

    Bad Call
    Referee Herb Dean demonstrated exactly what I focused on with my last Morning After: MMA refs are too inconsistent with the way they handle punches to the back of the head. Shane Roller landed several punches to the back of Michael Johnson's head, and all Dean did was warn Roller while allowing him to maintain his dominant position -- no point deduction, no stand-up, no time out to see if Johnson had been hurt by any of Roller's strikes, and certainly no disqualification, as Mario Yamasaki gave Erick Silva two weeks ago for punches to the back of the head that weren't as flagrant. The UFC and the state athletic commissions need to work together to get every ref on the same page on this rule.

    Stock Up
    Chris Camozzi had lost his last two UFC fights and needed a win to save his spot on the UFC roster Saturday night. He got it in impressive fashion against Dustin Jacoby, controlling the stand-up in the first couple rounds and forcing Jacoby to tap to a standing guillotine choke in the third.

    Stock Down
    George Roop had an opportunity to show he's a player in the featherweight division, but he was violently knocked out by Cub Swanson. Roop was looking up at the replay on the United Center big screen as he was walking back to the locker room, and he didn't seem to know what hit him. Roop has lost three of his last four.

    Fights I Want to See Next
    Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans and Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen. Watching Evans and Sonnen on Saturday night, it's awfully tough for me to envision either one of them winning their upcoming title fights. But both men have won enough big fights in their weight classes that they've earned No. 1 contender status. I'm looking forward to seeing both of them get their title shots, even though both of them are going to be huge underdogs
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    Post-Fight Thoughts After UFC on FOX 2

    The sky is not falling.

    The doomsdayers always seem to panic whenever a UFC show does not produce a series of heart-racing moments, and UFC on FOX 2 certainly fell a little flat, leading to heavy criticism and downright concern about the future of the FOX deal.

    Relax. FOX is well aware that some fights are going to blow you away, and others will make you want to walk away. That's sports. They didn't lock in a seven-year deal with the thought of divorcing after their first official show under the terms of the deal. This is still a new sports property for them, and there is plenty of room to grow for both sides.

    Adjustments will be made, and fights will deliver.

    Remember, we have Nate Diaz vs. Jim Miller on tap for UFC on FOX 3 in May. There's no way that fight doesn't deliver.

    Until then, here are my thoughts on storylines stemming from the UFC's second outing on network TV...

    Historic Run
    Jon Jones had a banner 2011, capturing the title and finishing all four of his fights. The virtuoso performance led many to wonder what he could possibly do for an encore, and now we have our answer. Jones has Rashad Evans and Dan Henderson waiting to fight him.

    Think about this: Jones has the possibility of going through Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, Lyoto Machida, Evans and Henderson consecutively. If he accomplishes it, it would no doubt be the most impressive five-fight run in MMA history.

    And let it be said, giving Evans the first shot at Jones before Henderson is the right call. Evans has been the No. 1 contender in waiting for about 18 months, since beating Jackson back in May 2010. He's waited long enough. Even though Henderson is 41 years old and has less time remaining in his career than Evans, he wasn't even in the UFC when Evans became the top contender. He was still in Strikeforce at the time.

    Henderson should certainly get the chance to fight the Evans-Jones winner, but given the UFC schedule, he'll likely be offered another fight before it.

    Stepping Back
    It's safe to say that Phil Davis wasn't quite ready for the jump up to elite opponent level, struggling in a decision loss to Evans. Davis remains a wildly gifted talent, but seems to lack conviction in some of his own abilities. He didn't fully commit to his punches, often moving backward as he threw, and that allowed Evans to fire off his own strikes with little to fear.

    Davis does throw strong kicks, but until he learns to let his hands go -- a skill that will complement his wrestling -- he won't reach his optimum potential.

    Sonnen-Silva II
    Chael Sonnen had some trouble with Michael Bisping on the way to a unanimous decision that will set up a rematch with Anderson Silva, likely this summer in Brazil. The less-than-stellar performance sent his stock downward in the eyes of many, who suggest that it will somehow carry over into his fight with Silva.

    There's no correlation between the two fights. Bisping has always boasted very good takedown defense and even when he's gotten taken down, he tends to pop back up to his feet quickly. Silva's takedown defense is average, and when he gets taken down, he looks for submissions instead of trying to get to his feet. Sonnen is much more likely to take him down and keep him down for long stretches, just like the first fight, mainly because Silva is often content to work from his back, where he's dangerous.

    That said, the rematch -- like the original -- is likely to come down to whether Sonnen can stay away from a fight-ending submission.

    MiddleMan
    For a long time, I have asked, where is the next great middleweight? In a story from last year, I suggested Chris Weidman could be that man.

    On Saturday, Weidman defeated Maia in a workmanlike decision. While he didn't steal the headlines away from Evans or Sonnen, Weidman's win on 11 days' notice sends the message that he's a force to be reckoned with. He had to cut from 217 to 185. He was faced with fighting a southpaw. His opponent was one of MMA's submission masters. Weidman conquered all these obstacles in his path, and that says plenty about his mental and physical makeup.

    Weidman has shown advancing striking skills to go with his excellent wrestling and ground game. Barring an injury, there's no question that he'll be knocking on the door of top contenders in the division ASAP.

    Another first
    Charles Oliveira made his featherweight debut memorable, becoming the first UFC fighter in history to score a calf slicer submission. Oliveira is an aggressive, attacking offensive fighter, so it's no surprise that he'd pull off something so bold and rare. Now it's worth watching to see if he becomes a real factor in the division.

    Damned if you do...
    Nik Lentz used to receive a ton of criticism for fighting conservatively, but the approach led to a 15-fight unbeaten stretch from 2007-2011. The constant slams from fans and media caused Lentz to reconsider his approach, and his more wide open style has led to two losses in a row. The upside: he earned a $65,000 bonus for Fight of the Night. The downside: he's now officially on the cut watch list.
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    Lavar Johnson Admits He Threw Up Before UFC Debut

    Watch below as Lavar Johnson breaks down his knockout win over Joey Beltran at UFC on FOX 2. Johnson talked about the nerves he had before his UFC debut, if he expected to dominate Beltran and much more.

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    Michael Johnson Was Confident He Did Enough to Beat Shane Roller

    Watch below as Michael Johnson breaks down his unanimous decision win over Shane Roller at UFC on FOX 2. Johnson discusses if he was worried before the judges' scorecards were announced, the trouble he faced in the third round, how much his camp helped with his wrestling and much more.

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    Mike Russow: There Was No Way I Was Going to Lose at Home

    Watch below Mike Russow breaks down his win over Jon Olav Einemo at UFC on FOX 2. Russow discusses how a full training camp helped him, the challenges Einemo presented, if he felt any more pressure fighting in front of his hometown crowd, what he could have done differently and when will he return to the police force.

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    Evan Dunham Was Surprised by Doctor's Stoppage

    Watch below as Evan Dunham talks about his win at UFC on FOX 2 against Nik Lentz. Dunham discusses what he thought about the doctor's decision to stop the fight, what rounds he think he won, why he got his warm-up wrong and who he would like to face next.

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    Michael Bisping Believes He Won First Two Rounds Against Chael Sonnen

    Watch below as Michael Bisping talks about his unanimous decision loss to Chael Sonnen at UFC on FOX 2. "The Count" discusses why he thought he won against Sonnen, his wrestling, what he felt he could have done differently in the third round and much more.

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    Chael Sonnen Agrees to Fight Anderson Silva in Brazil, Still Not Convinced It Will Happen

    Watch below as Chael Sonnen talks about his win over Michael Bisping at UFC on FOX 2, whether he thought the fight would play out that way, fighting on FOX and why doesn't think the Anderson Silva rematch will happen.

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    UFC on FOX 2 Averages 4.37 Million Viewers in Preliminary Ratings


    Early ratings are in for Saturday night's UFC on FOX 2 event, and the two-hour broadcast drew an estimated 4.37 million viewers, according to a report by TVBytheNumbers.com.

    The final number, however, is likely to increase substantially by the time final ratings are released, as information continues to trickle in on the live broadcast.

    Saturday night's two-hour show, which was broadcast from the United Center in Chicago, featured a tripleheader that was void of any finishes. In the main event, Rashad Evans out-pointed Phil Davis, setting up a light-heavyweight title fight against Jon Jones. The co-main event saw Chael Sonnen earn a decision over Michael Bisping, setting up a rematch with middleweight champ Anderson Silva. And the night's opener saw rising star Chris Weidman top Demian Maia on points.

    Despite the lack of big finishes or action-packed rounds, ratings indicated that the event helped FOX carry the all important 18-49 year old demographic, as that segment of the population averaged a 2.2 rating to lead all broadcast networks.

    Final ratings should be released on Monday.

    The next UFC on FOX event will take place in the spring, with a May 5 date penciled in. To date, only one TV matchup has been confirmed, with lightweight contenders Nate Diaz and Jim Miller squaring off in a bout likely to serve as the co-main event.

    By comparison, the initial UFC on FOX show last November featuring a heavyweight title bout with Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos drew an overnight rating of 4.64 million, but when final information was released, it ended up averaging a more robust 5.7 million viewers for the one-hour special.
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    UFC on FOX 2 Averages 4.7 Million Viewers, Peaks With Over 6 Million

    Last Saturday night's UFC on FOX 2 posted a 2.6/5 national rating/share, according to data released by Nielsen Media Research on Tuesday. The event, which lasted two hours and 19 minutes, averaged 4.7 million viewers, and easily won the night's coveted 18-49 demographic.

    Ratings for the show grew as it went on, with more than 6 million viewers tuning in to watch Rashad Evans defeat Phil Davis by unanimous decision in the main event.

    Original overnight ratings pegged the audience at 4.37 million viewers, a number that was later adjusted to account for fluctuations in the live broadcast. Of note, the 18-49 year-old demographic dominated the evening, as the event's 2.4 rating nearly equaled that of the 2.5 that CBS, ABC and NBC combined for on that night.

    The rating though, was down a bit from the first UFC on FOX show. The inaugural outing last November featuring then-heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos drew an average of 5.7 million viewers and peaked with 8.8 million viewers, though that event lasted just one hour.

    The next UFC on FOX event will take place on May 5 from the Izod Center in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Only one TV fight has so far been announced, a lightweight bout pitting contenders Nate Diaz and Mim Miller.
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