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    Ach ja, deze gast is een van de weinige vechter die je een echte slugfest geeft! Altijd gruwlijk om hem of zn broer te zien vechten. Ik zie weed ook niet als iets ergs, het zijn geen steroids ofzo waar je beter door gaat vechten. Als ik het goed heb kunnen je prestaties juist alleen maar slechter worden door weed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick diaz View Post
    I don't get it.
    You're Nick Diaz. You're a 28-year-old man who has won 10 fights in a row. You've conquered Strikeforce, a second tier promotion, admittedly enough, but one you've basically run roughshod through. The UFC, the biggest fight promotion in the world, comes calling and wants you to come fight their biggest drawing champion without having to jump through hoops to do it.
    Just sign a deal, do some press and fight for the title.
    But you screw it up. You miss multiple flights booked just to get you from one city to the next and you miss a pair of press conferences that piss the boss off enough to take you out of the main event. Bye-bye title shot, hello undercard.
    The fight game is wacky, though, and circumstances arise that you end up back in the main event. This time, all measures are taken to make sure you don't screw anything up, and you manage to get through just fine. You even win your fight in impressive fashion, all the while building a bigger fanbase through your "wild" antics and devil may care attitude.
    Then you get your title shot given back to you, despite all the nonsense and headache you caused before. Forgive and forget and all that.
    But, once again, the wacky fight game throws a few curveballs.
    The champion, Georges St. Pierre, gets injured, leaving you with a fight against fellow top contender Carlos Condit at UFC 143. You accept and while tales run rampant that you missed another flight or two, you manage to get to the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas for what you hope will be a scrap.
    When you don't get one, instead ending up frustrated and feeling lost, you quit. You complain that it's all not fair and you were screwed and he just ran and blah, blah, blah. You take your ball and go home, presumably leaving your employers in the lurch, the same folks who went to bat for you and put up with your constant headaches, navigating every road block you threw in their path.
    Then to top it all off, unbelievably enough, you fail the drug test. For marijuana of all things.
    This is nothing new for you. In fact, you've frequently bragged about your ability to beat the tests commissions administer. You've made it no secret that you partake in pot and while opinions vary on whether that's problematic or not, there is absolutely no doubt that it's unacceptable to fail a drug test for a fight in the UFC.
    Because those are the rules. Like them or not, they're the rules, ones you refuse to abide by.
    I don't get it.
    The folks at UFC catered to your every whim. They did anything they had to do to make sure they had you fighting inside the Octagon. You were paid an absurd amount of money -- again, despite not performing all the duties written into your contract -- and even though you had just threw a fit and quit your career, they were ready to give you an immediate rematch. They were going to put everything else on hold for you once again just to give you what you wanted.
    But you pissed it all away. All because you couldn't stay away from cannabis.
    The UFC is now in a position that will inevitably make them look bad. After all, they've only caved to your every demand already. Now that you've disrespected the hell out of them by throwing it back in their face with your inability to stay away from your recreational drugs, they have to figure out how to handle you.
    An early statement from UFC President Dana White makes obvious that they're not entirely sure how. Not yet, anyway.
    I don't get it.
    Was it not enough? Was a fat new contract and immediate title shot not enough? Was it not enough to have the love of a legion of fans who are still throwing their support behind you despite your repeated inability to show even a modicum of respect to anyone other than your family and the members of your fight team?
    Is getting high that important to you?
    I don't get it.
    Speaking of the fans, there are plenty of them telling me I should cut you some slack. "It's just weed," they say. "It's not like it's a huge deal."
    Exactly. If it wasn't such a big deal, you should have been able to put the bong down for a while so you could take care of business at your place of employment. They only made sacrifice after sacrifice for you, taking P.R. hit after P.R. hit just to get you back inside the cage. They benefited from it, of course, but there has to be a line in the sand.
    And you've been firmly on the other side this entire time, defiant until the very end.
    It's time for that to stop. It's time for you grow up and get your sh*t together. Because, frankly, it's not fair to the UFC, it's not fair to your opponents, and, most importantly, it's not fair to the fans.
    We're talking about weed here, man. That's all. Just some pot that you couldn't stay away from.
    I don't get it.

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    sja dit zag iedereen wel een beetje aankomen ik heb ook diaz zelf al meerdere keren horen zeggen dat ie van ze dgalijkse jointje houd.(twiiter en intervieuws)
    mischien was dit dana,s plan al van te voren en dat ie er daarom zo cool over blijft en een boodschap naar de smokende fighters wil sturen .
    dana zat al eerder niet om diaz te springen ook omdat hij 2 strikes heb en als diaz nog 1tje pakt is het 3 strikes out en krijg je minimal 10 jaar
    (or did he just grew up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by $haolin $hadowboxer View Post
    i didnt get a titel shot........ because i got high
    Idd

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    hij heeft totaal geen lichaamsvet dus THC kan zich niet echt opbouwen in zijn lichaam. Maar goed het duurt maanden voordat het uit je urine is verdwenen.

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    wat een amateur. nick komt terug als HW

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    Wiet is "decriminalized" (oftewel: gedecriminaliseerd) in California las ik. En wat jullie hier ook zeggen, dat het totaal niet bevorderend is voor iemands prestaties ben ik het helemaal mee eens. Wat ongelofelijk zonde en dom dit, omdat hij dit had kunnen weten. Opzich ben ik het net als jullie en Diaz eens dat een jointje roken totaal iets anders is dan steroids. En even serieus, als zijn partij tegen Gomi is omgezet tot een no contest na een win, wat wordt er nu gedaan dan met een loss? Als het echt eerlijk is wordt dit ook een no contest, want in principe heeft dit niets met het resultaat te maken.

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    Nick Diaz Is to Blame, But So Are Meaningless Commission Marijuana Tests

    Let's establish two facts from the outset. First, Nick Diaz's use of marijuana to the extent it produced a positive drug test result is irresponsible. Second, the urinalysis test regarding marijuana consumption used by athletic commissions (ostensibly) designed to protect the health and safety of fighters does neither and is little more than kabuki theater.
    The UFC has every right to be disappointed with Nick Diaz. They invested huge sums of money and other promotional resources to push him, his fight and build him as a pay-per-view attraction. As incoherent and insane as some of the rules may be (more on that in a minute), he accepted the handshake. That meant not only fighting Condit, it also included media promotion and some measure of clean living. For him to test positive on the urinalysis - which could've resulted in promotional disaster for the UFC had he actually defeated Condit at UFC 143 - is the height of unprofessionalism and represents a total failure as a partner to the UFC.

    But it's also true, and perhaps more important, that the urinalysis test (MMAFighting.com has confirmed Nevada uses urinalyses to test fighters for various banned substances, including marijuana) used by the Nevada State Athletic Commssion (NSAC) to gauge marijuana use does not perform the function it purports to do.


    "[Marijuana] is banned because of the damage it does to the person taking it," said Keith Kizer, Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Officer to the L.A. Times. "It could make you lethargic, slow your reflexes, and those are dangerous things in a combat sport."

    Kizer's argument is technically true, but incredibly misleading. In order to have any relevance in the combat sports context - remember, Diaz is medically cleared to use it in his personal life by a licensed medical practitioner - Kizer's argument has to apply to a fighter's state during sanctioned competition. After all, it's fair to argue no fighter should be competing under the euphoric effects of marijuana.

    Here's the problem: urinalysis tests are incapable of determining when a person used. According to drug use expert, author and Senior Editor of Reason magazine Jacob Sullum, it is scientific fact urinalyses only determine that someone used, not when.

    "[The urinalysis] shows that the drug has been consumed at some point," Sullum told MMAFighting.com, "but it doesn't pinpoint when and the problem arises mainly with marijuana because there's a very long detection window for marijuana ranging anywhere from a few days up to a month after somebody has smoked a joint depending on how heavy of a smoker they are, it can be detected for quite a long time after they're not high anymore so it's not a measure of intoxication or impairment, it's an indicator that they have consumed marijuana at some point in the past possibly, quite a time ago."

    "If you're doing it with urine," Sullum continued, "it's not going to be a measurement of current intoxication or impairment simply because what you're measuring is metabolized after the marijuana is processed. So just by the nature of the test, it's never going to be the test of somebody's current condition."

    If a urinalysis can't determine current levels of impairment, what can? Sullum says no method is perfect, but blood tests (generally, a more expensive proposition) is a significantly more accurate measurement. "[The blood test] is measuring THC levels in the blood so that's a better indicator, just like with alcohol, you want to know if somebody had a drink recently and how much have they consumed, you can get an idea of that by looking at the alcohol in their blood because that's what's affecting them right now. If there's THC in their blood above a certain cutoff, that's affecting you right now. If it's in your urine, it's not. Your urine is not circulated through your body so the relevant concern is what's actually affecting you now. Blood is a much more accurate measure of that".

    What's worse, the urinalysis puts a heavy burden on the marijuana user over other banned substances - like cocaine - that pose greater health risks but have shorter detection windows. "Yeah, it's a shorter window for other drugs," said Sullum. "Marijuana is unusual in that it's such a long window but even with other drugs, it can be a day or two or three depending upon the drug."

    Nick Diaz's problem isn't that he used marijuana in too close a proximity to the fight. By the commission's own perverse enforcement system, it's that he's got the wrong drug of choice.
    It is more understandable your standard employer would use a urina
    lysis as a screen for potential hires. All they want is peace of mind you're not using drugs. They don't need to know if when you took it you were or weren't high. That level of specificity is overkill.

    Athletic commissions not only have the need, they have the responsibility. When commissions use urinalysis to measure impairment of marijuana and other banned substances, no one's health is protected, no one's safety is at issue. In administering these tests, they become less a governing body tasked with regulating the sport and more just vice cops regulating personal behavior unrelated to occupational demands.

    Blame Nick Diaz all you like. He knew what he was getting into. The larger issue, however, isn't about him. It's a question of the efficacy of athletic commission protocol and the damaging penalties they hand out when fighters run afoul of demonstrably meaningless screens.

    Talk about reefer madness.


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    Tuurlijk heeft nick wel vet... iedereen heeft lichaamsvet.

    Zelfs bodybuilders staan op 2% in wedstrijdshape en dit mogen ze maar heel kort.


    EDIT: Hmm ik wou micha quoten..
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    Wiet kan wel degelijk prestatieverhogend werken, het kan je helpen om in een "flow" of "in the zone" te geraken.
    Of Diaz er wel of niet profijt van heeft gehad is een ander verhaal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westpaw View Post
    Wiet kan wel degelijk prestatieverhogend werken, het kan je helpen om in een "flow" of "in the zone" te geraken.
    Of Diaz er wel of niet profijt van heeft gehad is een ander verhaal.
    Volgens mij heb je nog nooit een jointje gerookt of wel, je gaat er wellicht makkelijker dom van lullen maar als het op sporten aankomt en al helemaal vechtsport werkt het alleen verwarrend....

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.H. View Post
    Volgens mij heb je nog nooit een jointje gerookt of wel, je gaat er wellicht makkelijker dom van lullen maar als het op sporten aankomt en al helemaal vechtsport werkt het alleen verwarrend....
    Tussen ons twee ben jij duidelijk degene die niet weet waar ie het over heeft.

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    Lekker Amerikaans weer dit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Westpaw View Post
    Wiet kan wel degelijk prestatieverhogend werken, het kan je helpen om in een "flow" of "in the zone" te geraken.
    Of Diaz er wel of niet profijt van heeft gehad is een ander verhaal.
    En tegelijkertijd onderdrukt THC testosteron productie in je herstelfase. Ik durf te beweren dat de nadelen de voordelen van de verminderde stress nivelleren.
    Als ze praten gaat het goed, als ze haten gaat het beter.
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    Volgens mij gaat het er helemaal niet over of het prestatie bevorderend is of niet. In de regels staat dat het niet mag en dan heb je je daar als professional aan te houden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefxr View Post
    Alleen stammen die regels uit een tijdperk dat weed als harddrugs werd gezien in de VS en niet uit het huidige tijdperk, waar het in 10 staten als medicijn worden gezien.
    Dat mag wel zo wezen, maar alsnog... Je weet wat de regels zijn of je het er nou wel of niet mee eens zijn.
    Dus terechte schorsing in mijn ogen

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    Inderdaad. Hij kende de regels en had zich er gewoon aan moeten houden, hij is namelijk pro, dan doe je dat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahlavan View Post
    Dat mag wel zo wezen, maar alsnog... Je weet wat de regels zijn of je het er nou wel of niet mee eens zijn.
    Dus terechte schorsing in mijn ogen
    Hij is psychisch niet helemaal in orde daarom gebruikt hij het om medische redenen, hij gebruikt het dus gewoon legaal. Ze zullen hem niet voor niets een licentie geven om wiet te roken, hij heeft het gewoon nodig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Company View Post
    Hij is psychisch niet helemaal in orde daarom gebruikt hij het om medische redenen, hij gebruikt het dus gewoon legaal. Ze zullen hem niet voor niets een licentie geven om wiet te roken, hij heeft het gewoon nodig.
    dat hij psyhisch niet helemaal 100% is had ik al een tijdje door ja.. maar ik zou dan denken dat een fatsoenlijke psycholoog beter voor hem is dan een wiet "behandeling" lol... maarja what do i know, ben geen arts

    maar als hij echt een licentie en dokter verklaring heeft dan moet dat toch geen probleem zijn? vechters die volgens medische redenen aan de testosterone zitten worden toch ook niet geschorst... persoonlijk denk ik dat het BS is en dat hij gewoon van een jointje houdt maarja.. ik weet verder niet precies hoe dat zit met die schorsingen en regels bij de athletic commisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahlavan View Post
    dat hij psyhisch niet helemaal 100% is had ik al een tijdje door ja.. maar ik zou dan denken dat een fatsoenlijke psycholoog beter voor hem is dan een wiet "behandeling" lol... maarja what do i know, ben geen arts

    maar als hij echt een licentie en dokter verklaring heeft dan moet dat toch geen probleem zijn? vechters die volgens medische redenen aan de testosterone zitten worden toch ook niet geschorst... persoonlijk denk ik dat het BS is en dat hij gewoon van een jointje houdt maarja.. ik weet verder niet precies hoe dat zit met die schorsingen en regels bij de athletic commisions
    Het probleem is dat Diaz in CaliforniŽ een licentie heeft om wegens medische redenen wiet te roken. Federaal is het echter nogsteeds verboden.
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    okeeee.....

    het is wetenschappeijk aangetoond dat THC je testosteron productie naar beneden breng en je oestrogeen aanmaak omhoog.....

    Daarbij heb ik zelf de ervaring....na een filmpje van Rogan en eddy Bravo gerpobeerd.... dat je met Grappling als je licht onder invloed bent....je losser beweegt en je creativiteit in reacties omhoog kan gaan...... wel verzuur je fucking snel...maar als je puur op routine en technieken gaat rollen....mwa best grappig... Maar verwacht aub geen doorzettingsvermoegen als je conditioneel stuk gaat....want dat echt niet hahaha

    Het gaat hier om iets heel anders denk ik.....In de regelementen staat dat je er niet positief op mag testen.....
    Zou hij wel een medicinaal papiertje hebben dan zou hij dat met UFC of NASC moeten overleggen en toestemming vragen...
    als die er niet is en je wordt positief getest is het toch duidelijk.....????

    testosteron wordt als voorbveeld gegeven, vind i erg omstreden....maar je kuntr ook voorbeeld astma inhalator noemen....

    Diaz is gewoon door het ijs gezakt.....
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    begrijpgoed de positieve bedoelingen van de blackbelt, maar zijn argumenten gaan echt nergens over.....
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    Default Carlos Condit: Nick Diaz's marijuana-minded attitude bit him in the ass

    f it was up to Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) Interim Welterweight Champion Carlos Condit, his next fight would be a score-settling rematch against Nick Diaz.Not because the mixed martial majority was butt-hurt over "The Natural Born Killer's" unanimous decision win against the Stockton slugger (they were), but because "he wanted it," and was ready to prove that he could do it again.Hopefully he still feels that way in 2013 after Diaz finishes up what's expected to be a yearlong suspension for drugs of abuse.The 170-pound trash-talker was popped for "marijuana metabolites" following the UFC 143 pay-per-view (PPV) event back on Feb. 4, 2012, in Las Vegas, Nevada, effectively eliminating himself from a Condit ematch as well as the division title chase.Live by the sword, die by the sword, according to Condit. Hear that and more from the Interim champ (via SI.com) after the jump.
    "I don't care. The thing about it is, it's something they test for. It's against the Nevada [State] Athletic Commission [rules]. I don't really consider it to be a performance-enhancing drug, but the fact is, they're testing for it. And you know they're testing for it. Whatever you do in between camps, if you know they're testing for this stuff then you've got to figure something out. In the past, he's said, 'Oh, I can smoke and I can pass these tests no problem.' That attitude kind of came back and bit him in the ass."
    For Diaz, the infraction marked the second time he's been popped for the green stuff in Nevada, having flunked his exam after strangling Takanori Gomi at PRIDE 33 nearly five years ago.And let's not overlook the drug test he bailed on prior to his planned fight against Jay Hieron in California.While Diaz has the right to appeal, he's expected to face a steep monetary fine, as well as a lengthy suspension that could last as long as one year.As for Condit?He's expected to fight Georges St. Pierre later this year to unify the titles, but if the Canadian is in no "Rush" to return from rehabbing his surgically repaired knee, there's always that rematch against Jake Ellenberger.Stay tuned.

    http://www.mmamania.com/2012/2/13/27...st-rematch-mma

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