Dave Meltzer: Dana White Wants Machida-Shogun II on January 2nd

**Harrie Nak** · 28-10-2009, 12:25

On his radio show last night (subscription required and recommended), Dave Meltzer said Dana White wants the Lyoto Machida vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua rematch on UFC 108. Meltzer also stated that Shogun has agreed to the date, and Machida will let them know if he's healthy enough to take it.

They want to return quickly with Machida/Shogun because the controversy is hot right now and if they can make a rematch announcement soon, they can assuage fan anger and channel it into PPV buys. If UFC 108 has Lesnar-Carwin, Machida-Shogun, and Evans-Silva, the show should break the million buy mark.

They won't do Lesnar-Carwin, Machida-Shogun, and Anderson-Vitor on the same card, because they'd have almost nothing for their shows at the beginning of next year, and they won't overload New Year's.

It may be a mistake for Machida to take a rematch so soon. There's just no way he can get a full training camp in given the beating he took Saturday night and the time he'll need to recover before he can train at full speed.

This is a good example of a situation where what is best for business diverges from what is best for the sport. The best thing for business is to put this rematch on as soon as possible to strike while the iron's hot. But at the same time, I don't think anyone wants to see Machida lose because he's injured and unable to train. I think the best course of action is to do Lesnar-Carwin and Sliva-Belfort on this show, and delay Shogun-Machida until the Superbowl show.

**dirk5** · 28-10-2009, 12:33

Ik hoop het, 2 titlefights is mooi, maar 3 is altijd beter.

**jasfro** · 28-10-2009, 12:45

Machida beweert toch nooit in gevaar geweest te zijn, dat alleen zijn been pijn deed in de 5e ronde. Dan kan hij in feite volgende week al vechten.
Het zou echt sneller moeten, dat is ook beter voor UFC die kunnen de hele situatie melken dan.

**superfreak** · 28-10-2009, 12:47

Originally Posted by dirk5

Ik hoop het, 2 titlefights is mooi, maar 3 is altijd beter.

3??
Dat zou alleen zo zijn als ze Lesner-Carwin, Lyoto-Shogun en Vitor-Anderson op de zelfde avond doen, maar dat doen ze al zo niet.

Je krijgt in plaats van Anderson-Vitor, Evens-Silva te zien, is ook een mooie partij.

**dirk5** · 28-10-2009, 12:54

Dat weet ik niet of ze dat niet doen.

the ultimate moet altijd the most stacked card of the year worden, vorig jaar hadden ze ook 2 titlefights. Volgensmij is meneer Meltzer geen Joe silva...

Achja, ik ben er zowiezo bij in het MGM grand

**Ivo C.** · 28-10-2009, 12:58

Carwin vs Lesner is not happeneing guys...
H1N1 for Lesner

**jasfro** · 28-10-2009, 13:01

Originally Posted by Ivo C.

Carwin vs Lesner is not happeneing guys...
H1N1 for Lesner

Het is van ufc 106 verplaatst naar 108, waardoor 3 titelgevechten

**dirk5** · 28-10-2009, 13:04

Originally Posted by Ivo C.

Carwin vs Lesner is not happeneing guys...
H1N1 for Lesner

Carwin later confirmed the diagnosis of H1N1 via Tweet:

Looks like it is posponed till Jan 2. I had h1ni myself and I understand how devastaing it can be.

**slee** · 28-10-2009, 13:04

hoe eerder hoe beter

**superfreak** · 28-10-2009, 13:05

Originally Posted by jasfro

Het is van ufc 106 verplaatst naar 108, waardoor 3 titelgevechten

Ja die wel. Alleen ging die van Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort niet door toch. Omdat Anderson geopereerd moest worden of zo.

dan hou je nog maar twee titelgevechten over.

Die dirk5 joh is er gewoon bij. Zo jaloers gewoon..

**dirk5** · 28-10-2009, 13:07

Originally Posted by superfreak

Ja die wel. Alleen ging die van Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort niet door toch. Omdat Anderson geopereerd moest worden of zo.

dan hou je nog maar twee titelgevechten over.

Die dirk5 joh is er gewoon bij. Zo jaloers gewoon..

Dat van Silva-Belfort is nog niet zeker.

jaloers? kaartje kopen, dan ben je er ook bij.

**dirk5** · 28-10-2009, 13:43

dit mag toch helemaal niet bij H1N1:

'Sick' Lesnar appeared at Oct. 18 Vikings' game
October 27, 2009 | 12:21 pm
On Monday, Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White said heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar had been sick for more than three weeks before opting to postpone his Nov. 21 title-defense bout against Shane Carwin because of missed training time.

But check out this video:

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oes Lesnar look sick? He appeared at the Minnesota Vikings' Oct. 18 home victory against the Baltimore Ravens -- one week and two days ago -- blowing the Vikings' ancient horn in an end zone and enjoying "South Dakota Day" at the nonconference game.

A Lesnar representative told me Monday he planned to release a statement regarding the fighter's illness today. It hasn't come yet. On Monday night, White told me Lesnar told him he'd "never been so sick," and "hated to make the call" asking for the postponement but had been sick for a long time. White said it was unclear if Lesnar had been stricken by the H1N1 virus.

The UFC would like to move the Lesnar-Carwin fight to Jan. 2 once Lesnar is back in good health, and a rematch of the Tito Ortiz-Forrest Griffin light-heavyweight fight from 2006 will replace the Lesnar-Carwin main event Nov. 21 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.