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Chico
07-12-2007, 00:09
Eindelijk eens iemand die het met me eens is dat hardlopen niets met vechtsporten te maken hebben :D
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Metabolic Power Training for MMA

By Alwyn Cosgrove

For EliteFTS.com (http://www.elitefts.com/)

SLAM!!! The empty Mountain Dew can hit the table.

“What’s that?” yelled Dave Tate.

I instinctively reached for my wallet. It was an empty can, and Dave was thirsty. And pissed. I was wrong (not entirely because Dave was thirsty and pissed), but that wasn’t his point.

“It’s a f-ing weight room,” Dave said.

Uh, ok Dave. Where’s my thinking? OF COURSE an empty soda can is a weight room…

SLAM !!!! An empty glass hit the table. “And what’s that?”

I didn’t answer, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t just an empty glass.

“That’s the f-ing track!”

The actual point of this exchange was Dave’s lesson to my young self. Each drinking vessel was in fact a complete and separate place to train, and we shouldn’t mix the training modalities. The idea that one could pour the soda into the glass and therefore mix the two went unnoticed by Dave, and in the interests of personal safety, unmentioned by me. (Of course, he went further than what I’ve described, but that’s a whole other article. Let’s just say that when a 300-pound man uses three cuss words in a four-word sentence, he’s a tad upset.)

Dave’s point was this—strength in the weight room, conditioning on the track, and never the twain shall meet. I disagree a bit. And in a bid to keep Dave pissed because a) he’s much more fun, and b) I’m now thousands of miles away instead of within throttling distance, I am about to present the fact that we can use the weight room for another purpose besides strength work.

What Dave does not understand is that there are some people out there who have goals outside of squatting 1000 pounds and bench pressing 700 pounds. This is the world he lives in. He does not live in the world that we all live in. Some of us came into strength training from different backgrounds—sports, health, and personal training. We use the weight room for many different purposes.

I came from a competitive martial arts background—Tae-kwon-do and kickboxing. In our world, we were more interested in learning how to hit harder, faster, and for longer. We used the weight room solely as a means to improve our end goal, never as an end in itself. Those of you involved in fighting sports or training other athletes know what I mean. It’s not always about improving max strength. It’s about max results. So while Dave lives in his world, we need to live in ours.

This program is not about building a 700-pound bench press. It’s far from it. This program is about using the weight room for conditioning.

Before we get into the actual exercise prescription, I should point out that I still believe that maximal strength levels should be achieved prior to endurance or energy system development. My theory is this. When we are talking about endurance, we are talking about power endurance or speed endurance or strength endurance. If we haven’t built up appreciable levels of power, speed, or strength, what the hell are we trying to endure? A low level of power? A low level of speed?

Conditioning coach, Mike Boyle, once pointed out that, “It is significantly easier to get an explosive athlete ‘in shape’ than it is to make an ‘in shape’ athlete explosive. The first will take weeks and the second may take years.”

Based on the results to the recent EFS survey, you guys want to hear more about mixed martial arts. Fighting sports are pretty unique because they are the only activity where your sole goal is generally to render your opponent unable to continue. No matter how far behind a fighter is there is always the hope that one perfectly delivered strike will knock out an opponent, thereby winning the battle. Sport combat is perhaps the ONLY activity whereby one of the participants can be hopelessly outclassed and even further behind. Yet, at a stroke, win. Decisively.

In this article, I’m going to combine conditioning in the weight room with MMA training. However this advice could easily be utilized in other sports.

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Endurance training
Traditionally, endurance training for combat sports of mixed martial arts has looked something like this:
A) Run
B) Repeat
C) See A.

This is an effective approach if we think of competitive fighting as an aerobic dependent event. But it’s not. We are dealing with repetitive, albeit sub-maximal power movements, which running does not replicate too well. Traditionally, power athletes have overtrained their aerobic system to prepare for their anaerobic power sport. So doing long distance work for anaerobic athletes can often make “joggers” out of “jumpers.” Let’s not build endurance at the expense of the power and strength components that we have taken so long to build up.

What about sprinting? While, again, it’s effective, some conditioning coaches use sprint training as their sole method of energy system development (ESD). This is at best a short-sighted approach. It is not uncommon to see well-conditioned fighters who have used sprint based ESD fatigue rapidly in hard matches. This is because although their cardio system is well-conditioned, the effect of lactic acid on their localized muscle groups is devastating. If we do not condition the muscle groups themselves to handle high levels of lactate, the cardio system will feel fine, but that area will lock up and shut down. Kickboxers call this “heavy legs.” Motocross athletes experience the same phenomenon but call it “arm pump.” This is where, despite feeling fine, the forearms become so pumped up and unable to move that the rider is toast anyway! And besides—no one wants to run!

I can’t say I blame them. No one I’ve ever met likes running, except runners. And no matter what they tell you, they don’t like it either. The commercials that have the hot chick running along the beach with her dog smiling are lies. All of the runners I see on my drive to work are miserable old fat bastards who look like they hate life. The only other runners I see are my running sport athletes who are getting the crap beat out of them doing agility or conditioning with me. And they don’t like it either—trust me.

So what’s a good way to improve metabolic power or do interval training without running? You can do it in the weight room (can you hear Dave getting pissed?) using a method of lifting called complexes. Now, I’m not the first person to ever use complexes. But after talking to my colleague, Robert Dos Remedios (the strength coach at College of the Canyons in Santa Clarita, California), we felt the need to define the term.

Complexes are performing two or more exercises in a sequence with the same load. You complete all of your reps with one movement first and then complete all of your reps with the next movement. For example, when combining a squat with an overhead press, perform five reps of squats first and then five reps of overhead presses without dropping the bar.

Seriously, this type of exercise demands a ton of work from the body. Here’s another example. At the end of both of the dynamic effort days (or twice a week if you are using a different programming option), the fighters perform one of the following complexes:

Complex one


Deadlift, 6 reps
Romanian deadlift, 6 reps
Bent over row, 6 reps
Power clean, 6 reps
Front squat, 6 reps
Push press, 6 reps
Back squat, 6 reps
Good morning, 6 reps
Complex two


Snatch grip deadlift, 6 reps
Snatch pull, 6 reps
Upright row, 6 reps
Power snatch, 6 reps
Reverse lunge, 6 reps each leg
Push jerk, 6 reps
Jump squat, 6 repsThat’s eight exercises at six reps each. Each rep is performed with good control and flows directly into the next exercise without rest. At about two seconds per rep, this complex should only take about 96 seconds. The key is to just keep the bar moving.

After each complex, we rest for 90 seconds and repeat for four complexes. The entire “interval training” program, as described, will take about twelve minutes.

Week 1: 4 circuits X 6 reps, 90 seconds rest
Week 2: 4 circuits X 6 reps, 75 seconds rest
Week 3: 4 circuits X 6 reps, 60 seconds rest
Week 4: 4 circuits X 6 reps, 45 seconds rest
Week 5: 5 circuits X 6 reps, 90 seconds rest
Week 6: 5 circuits X 6 reps, 75 seconds rest

Don’t underestimate this type of training. Complexes can be grueling. This eight movement complex times six reps has a total volume of 48 reps per set! At only 100 pounds on the bar, that comes out to 4800 pounds of total work per set. So in terms of density, we’re looking at over twenty thousand pounds of total work in, by week four, less than ten minutes.

That will help melt the fat off the body without having to resort to lighter weights in the workouts or be seen pounding the pavement. It will reap its rewards when the fighter steps into the ring. Even if the fighters are not using any type of strength program, this routine will really help to condition their bodies to handle the high levels of lactate that will be produced in a fight. It is an excellent fat loss tool for any athlete needing to preserve muscle and strength while dropping fat.

But to keep Dave happy—if you’re in his presence, do these complexes outside of the weight room! I can’t be held responsible otherwise.

chief108
07-12-2007, 09:10
reps voor jou (en de schrijver)

hardlopen sucks...

dimitri
07-12-2007, 09:27
reps voor jou (en de schrijver)

hardlopen sucks...

Je kan ook intervaltraining doen al lopend, en hillclimbs, en stairclimbs (met Eye of the Tiger op de iPod!)

FOCUS
07-12-2007, 09:43
deze manier van training heeft ook niets met vechtsport te maken....

kan zelfs nadelig werken.
duwen en trekken tot in de verzuring van de spieren die je EIGENLIJK zou moeten gebruiken om een snelle explosieve beweging maken (nl stoten en trappen) kan leiden tot een fout bewegingspatroon en ongewenste adaptatie van spiervezeltypes.
Tis een leuke afwisseling, maar zeker geen goede cardiovasculaire training die je dagelijks zou moeten toepassen.
Het voordeel van looptraining is dat je elke verschijningsvorm van conditie kan trainen, zonder dat het bijt met je andere trainingen (stootzak, padwerk, sparren).
bij het volgen van het schema van de auteur zal het risico op mechanische overreaching toenemen. Het herstel van een dergelijke training kan nl behoorlijk lang duren.

Chico
07-12-2007, 11:53
wat? :wacko:

FOCUS
07-12-2007, 12:08
So doing long distance work for anaerobic athletes can often make “joggers” out of “jumpers.” Let’s not build endurance at the expense of the power and strength components that we have taken so long to build up.


dit is correct. Dus beter interval-sprints, met toevoeging van allerlei andere loop-spring-en eigen lichaamsgewichts oefeningen, variatie is eindeloos.
de laatste zin is ook toepasbaar op andere vormen van training.
Wanneer je traint zoals in het artikel wordt geopperd, train je mn om het lichaam beter om te leren gaan verzuring. Op zich niets mis mee, maar dat is een vorm van training waar je spaarzaam mee om moet gaan. Het geeft zon zware verstoring van het lichaam, dat het al snel leidt tot overreaching/overtraining.
lactische trainingen (verzuring) hebben zeker een plaats in de trainingscyclus, maar moeten nooit de hoofdmoot vormen!
beter om grotendeels alactisch anaeroob te trainen, dit vergroot de trainingscapaciteit enorm in korte tijd. de hersteltijd van deze trainingen is beduidend lager!! dus sneller en vaker trainen!!!
heb al eens gezegd: krachtraining is om max kracht/vermogen/snelkracht te trainen, verder niet.

Chico
07-12-2007, 12:19
maar je kunt de training dan toch zodanig doen dat je niet verzuurd raakt?

FOCUS
07-12-2007, 12:27
That’s eight exercises at six reps each. Each rep is performed with good control and flows directly into the next exercise without rest. At about two seconds per rep, this complex should only take about 96 seconds. The key is to just keep the bar moving.


jij zou hierbij dus niet verzuren???


this routine will really help to condition their bodies to handle the high levels of lactate that will be produced in a fight.

je moet dus bij de training verzuren, anders raak je er niet aan gewend.


ik vind het soort training op zich goed, maar het moet spaarzaam worden toegepast. 1/week voor topsporters, 1/2weken voor sporters/beginners.

verder is het risico van 'verkeerd' spiergebruik aanwezig. Dit is een punt van discussie onder trainers en coaches, ik weet dat er een aantal topatleten zijn die op deze manier trainen met goede resultaten.

FOCUS
13-12-2007, 08:50
hier zat ik er dus goed naast met mn 'oppassen met lactische trainingen' betoog:blush:.

sorry mensen, ik had het verkeerd, zie verhaal over lactic acid-musle fuel...
Kan waarschijnlijk vaker worden toegepast, alhoewel ik dan geen idee heb hoe vaak/hoe lang/ hoe zwaar....