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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilprince View Post


    kijk vanaf 1:07 minuut, Fedor is iemand die behoorlijk wat klappen te verduren heeft gehad tijdens zijn carriere
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    Ik denk dat hij moet stoppen. Hij is niet te oud ofzo, maar het is niet om aan te zien als hij verliest, dat gun je hem gewoon niet.. niet 3 achter elkaar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez86 View Post
    Fedor is 34/35?
    Dat is nog helemaal niet zo oud, fysiek gezien.
    Volgens mij was hij nog net zo explosief in deze partij als voorheen, en dag was hij in de partij tegen Werdum en Silva ook, en heeft hij nergens in z'n verliespartijen tekenen laten zien dat hij op wou geven.
    Of ik heb ergens iets gemist?
    Maar hij is in huidige tijd gewoon een light heavyweight, en hebben mensen je door op een gegeven moment.



    dan moet cain velasquez ook een lightheavyweight zijn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilprince View Post
    http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/1020.jpg

    dan moet cain velasquez ook een lightheavyweight zijn?
    Ja die foto heb ik laatst ook al een keer gepost, het verschil tussen een HW en een LHW is soms maar heel weinig. Vond ik ook een beetje bij Evans en Spong toen je ze samen zag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilprince View Post
    http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/1020.jpg

    dan moet cain velasquez ook een lightheavyweight zijn?
    Cain weegt 240+, dat is ruim 110kg.
    JDS idem.
    Maar Fedor weegt met moeite 230 en dan zit er een behoorlijk spekrandje aan.
    Als je dan 3x op een rij verliest, onder andere van iemand die eigenlijk op 185 vecht, moet je gaan nadenken of je er wel slim aan doet om in die gewichtsklasse te blijven.
    Dat is heel normaal tegenwoordig.
    Btw, antwoord je dan ook ff op de rest van mn quote? Of heb je daar geen antwoord op.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez86 View Post
    Cain weegt 240+, dat is ruim 110kg.
    JDS idem.
    Maar Fedor weegt met moeite 230 en dan zit er een behoorlijk spekrandje aan.
    Als je dan 3x op een rij verliest, onder andere van iemand die eigenlijk op 185 vecht, moet je gaan nadenken of je er wel slim aan doet om in die gewichtsklasse te blijven.
    Dat is heel normaal tegenwoordig.
    Btw, antwoord je dan ook ff op de rest van mn quote? Of heb je daar geen antwoord op.
    Iedereen verliest, vind het te vroeg om hem nu al af te schrijven. Hendo is tegenwoordig ook gewoon een 205 pounder, hij zegt zelf ook niet meer terug te willen naar 185. Dat gezegd; Hendo is gewoon een hele goede vechter die van iedereen zou kunnen winnen. Fedor heeft nu 3 partijen achter elkaar verloren, en in de mma wereld ben je zo goed als je laatste partij.

    Dat gezegd zou ik Fedor nog steeds graag willen zien knallen tegen Overeem, beide heren hebben anders toch niks te doen. (;-)) En anders zouden een paar afscheidspartijen ook wel leuk zijn tegen opkomende HW vechters.

    DW praat ook poep want hij heeft van iedere UFC HW champ gewonnen uit de periode dat Fedor dominant was. (Silvia, AA & Coleman, wss vergeet ik er een paar want ze waren redelijk aan elkaar gewaagd in de UFC in die tijd, geen absolute HW topper)

    Ik blijf gewoon genieten van de prachtige partijen die de man altijd brengt, winst of verlies. Hij is een van de vechters die altijd voor de kill gaat en dit is een eigenschap die ik altijd zou blijven waarderen in een vechter. Ik ben de laatste die zegt dat hij de beste ter wereld is, maar hij heeft een -carriere achter de rug waar andere vechters alleen maar van kunnen dromen en tijdens de Fedor-era (if you like) heeft hij zich altijd als ambasadeur van de sport gedragen en het ook echt gebracht als meer dan vechten, een echte sport. Een sportman in hart en nieren.

    Ik kan me dan ook niet voorstellen dat sommige mensen de laatste tijd zo haten op fedor, haten op M1 en zijn management is wel gegrond (van wat ik heb begrepen).

    Ik heb overigens niet eens alle comments gelezen, maar jij wilde graag geqoute worden, dus bij deze mijn 2cent.
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    Ik zou hem graag de weg van Rich Franklin zien belopen nu, fuck title shots. Gewoon mooie partijen neerzetten. Hij heeft zich al bewezen.
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    jonge tjonge...wat een keners lopen hier zeg. Fedor vergelijken met VElasquez of JDs. Wat hebben deze twwe gepresteerd afgelopen 10 jaar in vergelijking met Fedor?
    Deze gasten zijn VERS, in de tijd dat Fedor iedereen versloeg zaten Velasquez en JDS aan de speen.
    De man hoeft niks meer te bewijzen, zijn lichaam zegt alles, geen massa meer, geen kracht de man is op.Overeem, Velasquez, JDS, Big Foot, niemand zal Fedor overtreffen, Fedor is een legende !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopez86 View Post
    Fedor is 34/35?
    Dat is nog helemaal niet zo oud, fysiek gezien.
    Volgens mij was hij nog net zo explosief in deze partij als voorheen, en dag was hij in de partij tegen Werdum en Silva ook, en heeft hij nergens in z'n verliespartijen tekenen laten zien dat hij op wou geven.
    Of ik heb ergens iets gemist?
    Maar hij is in huidige tijd gewoon een light heavyweight, en hebben mensen je door op een gegeven moment.
    wat moet ik hierop zeggen? fedor mist nu gewoon explosiviteit kijk naar Bigfoot gevecht en over het niet opgeven tijdens zijn gevechten;

    Doctor asked Fedor: "Can you continue?" Fedor shook his head and said – "No, I can’t" – according to the doctor that spoke to a Russian reporter

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    ShaneCarwin Twitter ;I think Fedor and I need to get together for some training. We both need something fresh to punch. I'll host or head to Russia.

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    ben idd benieuwd als fedor is een swing aan zn trainingscamp zou geven en in the states aan de gang zou gaan.. why not!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilprince View Post
    http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/1020.jpg

    dan moet cain velasquez ook een lightheavyweight zijn?
    Dus een foto zegt alles ..vooral als je hem neit eens goed bekijkt:

    Bader staat op een trapje ..kijk achter hem ..trapje gaat door en hij staat er op. Eerst kijken en dan posten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilprince View Post
    ShaneCarwin Twitter ;I think Fedor and I need to get together for some training. We both need something fresh to punch. I'll host or head to Russia.

    goed plan
    shane die stelde dit al eens eerder voor maar toen kwam er niks van. ik denk dat het opzich best een goed idee is... beide mannen zullen er veel aan hebben denk ik.
    vroeger trainde fedor voornamelijk in rusland en dat zorgde ook voor een soort van mythe om hem heen... een rus die in the middle of nowhere traint en niemand wist precies hoe en wat hij daar trainde etc etc. maar helaas is die mythe om hem heen nu zo goed als weg.
    het lijkt me een goed idee om gewoon eens een tijdje bij een gym in amerika te trainen of een paar toppers naar rusland te halen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rock View Post
    Dus een foto zegt alles ..vooral als je hem neit eens goed bekijkt:

    Bader staat op een trapje ..kijk achter hem ..trapje gaat door en hij staat er op. Eerst kijken en dan posten.
    ook al zou hij niet op een trap staan... het is toch duidelijk te zien dat bader ook qua postuur (breedte) niet bepaald kleiner is dan velasquez. ik snap niet hoe bader op lhw kan vechten... het is echt een grote, brede kerel.

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    als ik het goed heb begrepen kan M 1 niet eens meer het loon van zijn personeel betalen en heeft de grote geld schieter ( S M ) de stekker er uit getrokken .

    Quote Originally Posted by Pahlavan View Post
    m-1 zal hem uitmelken tot de laatste cent die ze aan hem kunnen verdienen.
    ik geloof best dat hij zelf nog wil doorvechten hoor. maar ik weet haast zeker dat m-1 hem hoe dan ook niet zomaar laat stoppen zolang ze nog geld aan hem kunnen verdienen

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrestler_nl View Post
    Er gaan geruchten rond dat een gevecht met Overeem bijna rond is.
    tegen kevin randleman geef ik hem op dit moment zelfs nog weinig kans!

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    Fedor heeft het naar zijn zin in Nederland, en die pot tegen Overeem zit toch niemand meer op te wachten, dus waarom niet lekker met GG meetrainen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rock View Post
    Dus een foto zegt alles ..vooral als je hem neit eens goed bekijkt:

    Bader staat op een trapje ..kijk achter hem ..trapje gaat door en hij staat er op. Eerst kijken en dan posten.
    een beeld zegt meer dan 1000 woorden, ken je die niet?

    ze zijn allebei 1.88, en ik bedoel dat cain velasquez niet het meest afgetrainde lichaam heeft, als je dan kijkt naar Bader die ziet er gewoon veel groter uit.
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    tegen kevin randleman geef ik hem op dit moment zelfs nog weinig kans!
    Q: The decision of Fedor to conitnue his career, did the majority of the decision belong to Fedor, or the pressure from contract obligations ?

    Vadim: A little bit of everything. Of course, the decision is based on Fedor's personal wish to continue. The contract obligations were secondary here. If Fedor wanted to stop, no contract would stop him. Fedor listened to the opinion of his friends, fighters and fans and made a decision. Emelianenko, at the moment is a very busy athlete, we talked to him and decided that we should not exit in this manner. Fedor is healthy and full of strength, he is ready to fight. Fedor is 34 years old. This is the best peak for heavyweight fighters. Dan Henderson for instance fights at 41, and wins. Emelianenko can fight for 5 more years at a high level, for him, this is just the beginning. He has no big injuries, and because of that, it would be incorrect to stop now.

    Q: What will be Fedor's return ? Is there a possibility that Fedor fights in Russia ?

    Vadim: Yes, we want to make a fight in Russia. We started working towards this. If all goes well, in the fall, we will organize a show in Moscow or in St. Petersburg, where Fedor's fight will be the main event.

    Q: This fight will be organized by M-1 Global, without any other promotion ?

    Vadim: Absolutely right. We are organizing this fight with our own resources. Now, on the market, we have noone to work with. Strikeforce slowly but surely is dying, under the direction of their new owners, Zuffa. All the problems with firing fighter and changes and other things — this is all the work of Dana White. He cannot close the company, but he can create all conditions for that to happen soon. In my opinion, he is doing that well. We are determined to follow our own way, develop under our own direction. Showtime will be a partner. Americans are ready to support us and show Fedor's Russian fight.

    Q: Who will be Fedor's opponent ?

    Vadim: There are many possibilities. I personally want so that the opponent is one of the great fighters from Pride's best times. It would be good if it was an interesting and competitive fighter, like for instance, Kevin Randleman. At any rate, we will chose a competitive, respected around the world fighter.

    Q: American fans are probably interested to know, that after the 1-2 marquee fights for Fedor, he returns to USA and fights top fighters there ?

    Vadim: We are also counting on this. I am hoping that after the fights in Russia, we will agree with the japanese for a fight on New Years' Eve in Japan. If all goes well, we will return to the USA in 2012. All these ideas are still in-progress, but ideally, that is the scheme that we would like to achieve.

    Q: How are currently the contracts with Showtime ? Were they any changes or agreements ?

    Vadim: With Showtime, we had agreed to show the fights in a 3+1 format. The contract could change if Fedor lost 2 in a row, which he did, and now the contract is stopped. This is a normal working process. Logically, Showtime will change some points in the contract. But our cooperation will not stop there. Showtime is interested to work with us, and we are interested to work with them. To confirm my words, Showtime will show Fedor's fight in Russia. This is a big and expensive project, which will take our cooperation to new heights.

    Q: Fighting at home, according to many fans, is a big plus for Fedor, not only because he will have local fans, but also due to not having to undergo adaptation: no long flights, acclimatization, and all other negative factors...

    Vadim: I absolutely agree. In fact, it is due to that that we took a decision to organize Fedor's next fight in Russia: he will need no time adaptation, there will no other pressure, and so his body will be fully in tact. Fedor needs to have 2 fights, so he can taste winning again and then return to the USA for a payback time. I am sure that Fedor can do that. He needs to start little by little and slowly increase the intensity.

    Q: Do you think it is enough to just change where the fight is ? Or how about Fedor's training methods and format of preparation ? Don't you think big corrections are needed ?

    Vadim: Big changes, nobody needs. It is needed that more time is spent in having greater variety during preparation: visit some famous fighting schools, do some sparring, exchange experience, and may be change your style a bit. Even Henderson offered Fedor help, so we have choices, but we need to realize this in practice. A fighter needs to develop, if he stops, thats it, his song is sung (i.e. he is done). The same, we can say for his trainers. MMA develops fast and so it follows that all participants (aka coaches as well) must develop.

    Q: Many experts are convinced: Emelianenko needs to change coaches. Even Fedor's brother, Alexander, said that about Fedor's current coaches: Vladimir Voronov and Alexander Michkov.

    Vadim: I don't know, I have not raised this question. In reality, it is hard for me to say, because I am not a master of any sport, so I cannot evaluate the work of his coaches. I try not to interefere in their work. The only thing which I can suggest is, as a fan, not to get too in depth in details. But one thing is clear: something needs to be changed.

    Q: Vadim, as a manager and a close friend of Fedor, don't you think that religion interferes with Fedor's preparation ?

    Vadim: I don't think so. Thrust in God, on the opposite, gives him strenght, makes him more disciplined. I know Fedor and I can say that faith made him a better person. Fedor's problem is a little different: he is a very proper person. For example, when Fedor follows religious fasts, during his fight preparation, his body does not get vital nutrients. To compensate, there are many legal supplements. But Fedor completely refuses to take any of this. As a result, what happens is that, when the fight starts, his body is not in its best shape, unlike for instance, say Henderson, with him, all is good, for the simple reason, that he takes afformentioned supplements.

    Q: What are Fedor's plans in the near future ?

    Vadim: This month, Fedor will take a holiday. He needs to be with his family. His wife had a hard time giving birth. Now, thank God, all is good, daughter is born, and healthy too. In September, I think to take Fedor to Holland. I think that he needs a full training camp in Holland. There are good conditions there so that he can benefit and build the fundament for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superstucie View Post
    tegen kevin randleman geef ik hem op dit moment zelfs nog weinig kans!
    Q: The decision of Fedor to conitnue his career, did the majority of the decision belong to Fedor, or the pressure from contract obligations ?

    Vadim: A little bit of everything. Of course, the decision is based on Fedor's personal wish to continue. The contract obligations were secondary here. If Fedor wanted to stop, no contract would stop him. Fedor listened to the opinion of his friends, fighters and fans and made a decision. Emelianenko, at the moment is a very busy athlete, we talked to him and decided that we should not exit in this manner. Fedor is healthy and full of strength, he is ready to fight. Fedor is 34 years old. This is the best peak for heavyweight fighters. Dan Henderson for instance fights at 41, and wins. Emelianenko can fight for 5 more years at a high level, for him, this is just the beginning. He has no big injuries, and because of that, it would be incorrect to stop now.

    Q: What will be Fedor's return ? Is there a possibility that Fedor fights in Russia ?

    Vadim: Yes, we want to make a fight in Russia. We started working towards this. If all goes well, in the fall, we will organize a show in Moscow or in St. Petersburg, where Fedor's fight will be the main event.

    Q: This fight will be organized by M-1 Global, without any other promotion ?

    Vadim: Absolutely right. We are organizing this fight with our own resources. Now, on the market, we have noone to work with. Strikeforce slowly but surely is dying, under the direction of their new owners, Zuffa. All the problems with firing fighter and changes and other things — this is all the work of Dana White. He cannot close the company, but he can create all conditions for that to happen soon. In my opinion, he is doing that well. We are determined to follow our own way, develop under our own direction. Showtime will be a partner. Americans are ready to support us and show Fedor's Russian fight.

    Q: Who will be Fedor's opponent ?

    Vadim: There are many possibilities. I personally want so that the opponent is one of the great fighters from Pride's best times. It would be good if it was an interesting and competitive fighter, like for instance, Kevin Randleman. At any rate, we will chose a competitive, respected around the world fighter.

    Q: American fans are probably interested to know, that after the 1-2 marquee fights for Fedor, he returns to USA and fights top fighters there ?

    Vadim: We are also counting on this. I am hoping that after the fights in Russia, we will agree with the japanese for a fight on New Years' Eve in Japan. If all goes well, we will return to the USA in 2012. All these ideas are still in-progress, but ideally, that is the scheme that we would like to achieve.

    Q: How are currently the contracts with Showtime ? Were they any changes or agreements ?

    Vadim: With Showtime, we had agreed to show the fights in a 3+1 format. The contract could change if Fedor lost 2 in a row, which he did, and now the contract is stopped. This is a normal working process. Logically, Showtime will change some points in the contract. But our cooperation will not stop there. Showtime is interested to work with us, and we are interested to work with them. To confirm my words, Showtime will show Fedor's fight in Russia. This is a big and expensive project, which will take our cooperation to new heights.

    Q: Fighting at home, according to many fans, is a big plus for Fedor, not only because he will have local fans, but also due to not having to undergo adaptation: no long flights, acclimatization, and all other negative factors...

    Vadim: I absolutely agree. In fact, it is due to that that we took a decision to organize Fedor's next fight in Russia: he will need no time adaptation, there will no other pressure, and so his body will be fully in tact. Fedor needs to have 2 fights, so he can taste winning again and then return to the USA for a payback time. I am sure that Fedor can do that. He needs to start little by little and slowly increase the intensity.

    Q: Do you think it is enough to just change where the fight is ? Or how about Fedor's training methods and format of preparation ? Don't you think big corrections are needed ?

    Vadim: Big changes, nobody needs. It is needed that more time is spent in having greater variety during preparation: visit some famous fighting schools, do some sparring, exchange experience, and may be change your style a bit. Even Henderson offered Fedor help, so we have choices, but we need to realize this in practice. A fighter needs to develop, if he stops, thats it, his song is sung (i.e. he is done). The same, we can say for his trainers. MMA develops fast and so it follows that all participants (aka coaches as well) must develop.

    Q: Many experts are convinced: Emelianenko needs to change coaches. Even Fedor's brother, Alexander, said that about Fedor's current coaches: Vladimir Voronov and Alexander Michkov.

    Vadim: I don't know, I have not raised this question. In reality, it is hard for me to say, because I am not a master of any sport, so I cannot evaluate the work of his coaches. I try not to interefere in their work. The only thing which I can suggest is, as a fan, not to get too in depth in details. But one thing is clear: something needs to be changed.

    Q: Vadim, as a manager and a close friend of Fedor, don't you think that religion interferes with Fedor's preparation ?

    Vadim: I don't think so. Thrust in God, on the opposite, gives him strenght, makes him more disciplined. I know Fedor and I can say that faith made him a better person. Fedor's problem is a little different: he is a very proper person. For example, when Fedor follows religious fasts, during his fight preparation, his body does not get vital nutrients. To compensate, there are many legal supplements. But Fedor completely refuses to take any of this. As a result, what happens is that, when the fight starts, his body is not in its best shape, unlike for instance, say Henderson, with him, all is good, for the simple reason, that he takes afformentioned supplements.

    Q: What are Fedor's plans in the near future ?

    Vadim: This month, Fedor will take a holiday. He needs to be with his family. His wife had a hard time giving birth. Now, thank God, all is good, daughter is born, and healthy too. In September, I think to take Fedor to Holland. I think that he needs a full training camp in Holland. There are good conditions there so that he can benefit and build the fundament for the future.
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    Could this be the next man to topple former PRIDE Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko? ESPN's Josh Gross tweets that M-1 is reaching out to managers this week for "The Last Emperor's" next fight in Russia and that UFC veterans Mike Whitehead and Travis Wiuff are "potential opponents."

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    Jezus, wat een grap. Mag toch aannemen dat het dan Fedor vs. tag-team Whitehead / Wiuff wordt?

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