Badr Hari aan de anabole steroïde

[FOCUS]

Van ehedra maak je efedrine en ook amfetamine,.vandaar...

[Nosferatu187]

Is familie van amfetamine ja, werd gewoon als supplement verkocht lol.

[Juul]

Wielrennen is natuurlijk een heel andere sport dan vechtsport. Maar na het lezen van het boek 'Wielermafia' van David Doyle en Tyler Hamilton ben ik het naïeve geloof in schone topsport volledig verloren. Zelfs de mogelijkheid dat er een aanzienlijke grote minderheid zonder doping in welke tak van topsport meedoet. Mijn perceptie over dit onderwep is daarmee bijna volledig omgeslagen.

Want als bij zo'n streng gecontroleerde sport als wielrennen d.mv. onder meer vakere micro-doseringen (net zo effectief als 'normale' doseringen) en maskeringsmiddelen de pakkans al nihil tot nul is, zal het gebruik bij andere sporten zeker niet minder zijn. In het boek wordt met praktijkvoorbeelden ook goed en duidelijk beschreven, dat een beroepssporter ook niet anders kan. Het is meedoen met doping of afhaken.

Als dan iedereen doping gebruikt zou je wel weer kunnen concluderen, dat daamee het competetieve speelveld weer genivelleerd is. Net als wanneer er geen doping gebruikt zou worden.

Maar bij mij laat het toch een vieze nasmaak achter. De meerdere gevallen van gedesililusioneerde afhakende wel schone sporters zijn namelijk erg ontroerend in het boek. Hen wordt toch echt onrecht aangedaan.

[MuayThaiGuy]

Wielrennen is natuurlijk een heel andere sport dan vechtsport. Maar na het lezen van het boek 'Wielermafia' van David Doyle en Tyler Hamilton ben ik het naïeve geloof in schone topsport volledig verloren. Zelfs de mogelijkheid dat er een aanzienlijke grote minderheid zonder doping in welke tak van topsport meedoet. Mijn perceptie over dit onderwep is daarmee bijna volledig omgeslagen.

Want als bij zo'n streng gecontroleerde sport als wielrennen d.mv. onder meer vakere micro-doseringen (net zo effectief als 'normale' doseringen) en maskeringsmiddelen de pakkans al nihil tot nul is, zal het gebruik bij andere sporten zeker niet minder zijn. In het boek wordt met praktijkvoorbeelden ook goed en duidelijk beschreven, dat een beroepssporter ook niet anders kan. Het is meedoen met doping of afhaken.

Als dan iedereen doping gebruikt zou je wel weer kunnen concluderen, dat daamee het competetieve speelveld weer genivelleerd is. Net als wanneer er geen doping gebruikt zou worden.

Maar bij mij laat het toch een vieze nasmaak achter. De meerdere gevallen van gedesililusioneerde afhakende wel schone sporters zijn namelijk erg ontroerend in het boek. Hen wordt toch echt onrecht aangedaan.

Ik zeg niet dat in elke sport doping wordt gebruikt maar het is een grote vicieuze cirkel.

De sporter wil/moet winnen.

De trainer wil dat zijn sporter wint.

De liefhebber van de sporter/club wil dat er gewonnen wordt.

De sponsoren wil dat de sporter/club wint.

Met andere woorden er worden verwachtingen gecreëerd waarbij elk van bovenstaande aan een verwachtingspatroon moet voldoen. Anders is al van bovenstaande niet interessant genoeg, zo simpel is het.
Volgens mij werd gisteren bekend dat iedereen binnen de Raboploeg doping heeft gebruikt, Michael Boogerd heeft onlangs nog eens met klem benadrukt dat hij clean was.
Als een sporter betrapt wordt op het gebruik van doping dan vindt ik persoonlijk dat niet alleen de sporter afgerekend hoort te worden, maar ook de trainer, de supporter, de sponsoren en de overheid.
Ook zij werken mee aan dit milieu want ze zijn maar wat trots als Nederlandse sporters weer een topprestatie hebben geleverd op een EK, WK, Olympische spelen enz., enz.,
Een sporter sport niet om te verliezen, een trainer wil geen tijd/energie steken in een sporter die enkel verliest, een supporter is geen fan van een sporter/club die enkel verliest, een sponsor zal geen geld investeren in een sporter/club die enkel verliest.
Accepteer dat doping bij topsport hoort, het is enkel aan bovenstaande om er deel van uit te maken.
En dat zijn wij allemaal, er is niemand die niet afgerekend kan worden het is enkel de sporter welke de meeste schade er van ondervind.

[Anderson]

Een sporter sport niet om te verliezen, een trainer wil geen tijd/energie steken in een sporter die enkel verliest

wrong!!!!!!
Gago Drago, William Diender

[MuayThaiGuy]

wrong!!!!!!
Gago Drago, William Diender

Jij denkt dat zowel Drago als Diender een ring in stappen met de "olympische gedachte"?
Ik denk dat beide zelf in hun kunnen geloven, vroeger konden ze het ook het enige wat jammer is is dat ze niks anders kunnen.

[R.H.]

Deze docu is volgens mij in dit topic nog niet gepost, echt een aanrader om te kijken mbt Steroiden

[mario the count]

Deze docu is volgens mij in dit topic nog niet gepost, echt een aanrader om te kijken mbt Steroiden

gave docu idd.

[de Stiep]

Sponsordruk is groot. Ik beweeg me ook in de wereld van het sportvissen aan/op zee. Ook DAAR moet je winnen wil je de sponsor en supporters blij maken. Je kunt geen doping gebruiken, maar wel onreglementaire dingen doen om maar te winnen. Praat je over vissen meenemen en ter weging aanbieden, een paling (veel centimeters !) meenemen in een thermosfles en ga maar zo door. Gaat in een gemiddelde wedstrijd om bedragen van 500 Euro, maar soms zelfs een auto ! Nog belangrijker is dat goede prestaties van "het team" zorgen voor grotere verkopen van hengelsportmaterialen van de sponsor die de winnende vissers gebruiken. Je praat over tientallen miljoenen, ergo de boel belazeren gebeurt bijna in elke sport imo. Legio voorbeelden van wereldkampioenen die de kluit hebben belazerd en daarbij betrapt zijn. Worden zij eruit geflikkert ? Ja, maar gewoon overstappen naar een ander team en vrolijk weer verder gaan. Kickboksen, wielrennen, sportvissen... zodra er poen aan te pas komt is er rottigheid.

[blackadder]

Hahaha...fucking hell. Vissen.

[mario the count]

Sponsordruk is groot. Ik beweeg me ook in de wereld van het sportvissen aan/op zee. Ook DAAR moet je winnen wil je de sponsor en supporters blij maken. Je kunt geen doping gebruiken, maar wel onreglementaire dingen doen om maar te winnen. Praat je over vissen meenemen en ter weging aanbieden, een paling (veel centimeters !) meenemen in een thermosfles en ga maar zo door. Gaat in een gemiddelde wedstrijd om bedragen van 500 Euro, maar soms zelfs een auto ! Nog belangrijker is dat goede prestaties van "het team" zorgen voor grotere verkopen van hengelsportmaterialen van de sponsor die de winnende vissers gebruiken. Je praat over tientallen miljoenen, ergo de boel belazeren gebeurt bijna in elke sport imo. Legio voorbeelden van wereldkampioenen die de kluit hebben belazerd en daarbij betrapt zijn. Worden zij eruit geflikkert ? Ja, maar gewoon overstappen naar een ander team en vrolijk weer verder gaan. Kickboksen, wielrennen, sportvissen... zodra er poen aan te pas komt is er rottigheid.

Een maat van me is daar ook veel mee bezig. Hoorde van hem dat sommige mensen vissen gewoon uitrekken/ oprekken om centimeters te winnen.

[mario the count]

Een maat van me is daar ook veel mee bezig. Hoorde van hem dat sommige mensen vissen gewoon uitrekken/ oprekken om centimeters te winnen.

Zal die tip trouwens maar niet aan mijn vrouw geven

[MuayThaiGuy]

Een maat van me is daar ook veel mee bezig. Hoorde van hem dat sommige mensen vissen gewoon uitrekken/ oprekken om centimeters te winnen.

Broekpaling? LOL

[Peacey]

Zal die tip trouwens maar niet aan mijn vrouw geven

Is het nodig dan

[mario the count]

Is het nodig dan

Weet ik niet, moet je haar vragen

[GM]

Anabolen zijn toch illegaal in NL? Apart dat het zo dan open en bloot wordt aangeboden op die site

Nee...... dat zijn ze niet, het zijn gewone medicijnen die door een arts voorgeschreven kunnen worden (mits goedgekeurd).

Wat wel illegaal is in Nederland is het in bezit hebben en/of verhandelen van medicijnen in het illegale circuit (buiten de arts om zeg maar)

[GM]

Bullshit alle top sporters cheaten dan, de schuldige zijn nog altijd de mensen die naar sport kijken als er geen anabolen zouden bestaan, dan zouden er ook geen top sporters meer zijn.

Wel....alleen op een lager niveau

[GM]

ik heb een vraag als ik denk aan anabole steroiden denk ik aan gr0tere spieren in korte tijd en aankomen maar dat zou dan betekenen dat de 70 kg bijv. k1 max die gasten allemaal clean zijn want die moeten meestal allemaal juist afvallen voor hun partij en een normale man weegt al gemiddeld 75. maar klopt dit of is het een beetje kort door de bocht?

Heel kort door de bocht !

[MuayThaiGuy]

Wel....alleen op een lager niveau

Lager niveau is amateur, dus?

[GM]

Lager niveau is amateur, dus?

Zolang ze hun boterham ermee verdienen niet

[R.H.]

kwam deze net tegen op Sherdog en dacht ik jat hem ff
Orginele artikel: http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/a-571031.html

SPIEGEL: Mr. Heredia, will you watch the 100 meter final in
Beijing?

Heredia: Of course. But the winner will not be clean. Not even
any of the contestants will be clean.

SPIEGEL: Of eight runners
...

Heredia: ... eight will be doped.

SPIEGEL: There is no way to
prove that.

Heredia: There is no doubt about it. The difference between
10.0 and 9.7 seconds is the drugs.

SPIEGEL: Can drugs make anyone into a
world record holder?

Heredia: No, that is a misapprehension: “You take a
couple of tablets today and tomorrow you can really fly.” In reality you have to
train inconceivably hard, be very talented and have a perfect team of trainers
and support staff. And then it is the best drugs that make the difference. It is
all a great composition, a symphony. Everything is linked together, do you
understand? And drugs have a long-term effect: they ensure that you can recover,
that you avoid the catabolic phases. Volleyball on the beach might be healthy,
but peak athletics is not healthy. You destroy your body. Marion Jones, for
example ...

SPIEGEL: ... five-time Olympic medallist at Sydney 2000
...

Heredia: ... trained with an unparalleled intensity. Drugs protect
you from injury. And she triumphed and picked up all the medals.

SPIEGEL:
Are you proud?

Heredia: Of course, I still am. It is still a tremendous
achievement, and you must not believe that Marion’s rivals were poor, deceived
competitors.

SPIEGEL: This isn’t just an American
problem?

Heredia: Are you kidding me? No. All countries, all federations,
all top athletes are affected, and among those responsible are the big shoe
companies like Nike and Adidas. I know athletes who broke records; a year
later they were injured and they got the call: “We’re cutting your sponsorship
money by 50 percent.” What do you think such athletes then do?

SPIEGEL:
Tell us what you did for your clients.

Heredia: Athletes hear rumors and
they become worried. That the competition has other tricks, that they might get
caught when they travel. There is no room for mistakes. One mistake can ruin a
career.

SPIEGEL: So you became a therapist for the athletes in matters of
drugs?

Heredia: More like a coach. Together we found out what was good
for which body and what the decomposition times were. I designed schedules for
****tails and regimens that depended on the money the athletes offered me.
Street drugs for little money, designer drugs for tens of thousands. Usually I
sent the drugs by mail, but sometimes the athletes came to me.

SPIEGEL:
With Marion Jones ...

Heredia: ... it was about the recovery phases. In
2000 she competed in one event after another, and she needed to relax. I gave
her epo, growth hormone, adrenaline injections, insulin. Insulin helps after
training, together with protein drinks: insulin transports protein and minerals
more quickly through the cell membrane.

SPIEGEL: Jones was afraid of
needles.

Heredia: Yes, that’s why C. J. Hunter, her husband at the time,
and her trainer Trevor Graham mixed her three substances in one injection. I
advised them against it because I thought it was risky.

SPIEGEL: What
kind of relationship did you have with your athletes?

Heredia: Business
ties. It was all about levels and dosing. I rarely spoke with Marion. It was
done through her coaches.

Part II: How Heredia outwitted the drug testers
and became the dealer to the world’s best athletes.

SPIEGEL: Was there a
doping cycle?

Heredia: Yes. When the season ended in October, we waited
for a couple of weeks for the body to cleanse itself. Then in November, we
loaded growth hormone and epo, and twice a week we examined the body to make
sure that no lumps were forming in the blood. Then we gave testosterone shots.
This first program lasted eight to ten weeks, then we took a
break.

SPIEGEL: And then the goals for the season were
established?

Heredia: Yes, that depended on the athlete. Some wanted to
run a good time in April to win contracts for the tournaments. Others focused on
nothing but the trials, the U.S. qualification for international championships.
Others cared only about the Olympics. Then we set the countdown for the goal in
question, and the next cycle began. I had to know my athletes well and have an
overview of what federation tested with which methods.

SPIEGEL: Where
does one get this information?

Heredia: Vigilance.
Informers.

SPIEGEL: You were once a good discus thrower
yourself.

Heredia: Very good in Mexico, but very average by international
standards. I had played soccer, boxed and done karate before I ended up in track
and field. At 13 or 14 I believed in clean sports. Doping was a crime to me;
back then I even asked my father if I could take aspirin.

SPIEGEL: Why
did you begin doping?

Heredia: Like all athletes: because others were
doing it. All of a sudden, kids that I used to beat were throwing ten meters
further. Then I had an injury but I wanted to qualify for the Olympic team
anyway. Doping became to me what it is for most athletes: part of the sport. If
you train for 12 hours today and your trainer expects you to train for 12 hours
again tomorrow, you dope. Otherwise you can’t do it.

SPIEGEL: What did
you take?

Heredia: Growth hormone. Testosterone.

SPIEGEL: But you
failed to qualify for the Olympics anyway.

Heredia: Yes, but I read
anything I could find about medicine, spoke with other athletes, and soon people
were saying: Angel knows how it’s done. He knows how to pass the tests. The
first athletes began to ask me for advice. That’s how it started, and at some
point the trainer Trevor Graham asked me if I could help him. I explained to him
how epo works, and I was in business.

SPIEGEL: What qualified you for the
role of dealer to the world’s best athletes?

Heredia: My father is a
chemistry professor. I love chemistry, and I was an athlete. My role was an
obsession. For example, I learned everything about testosterone: that there is a
type of testosterone with a high half-life and another that works very quickly.
I learned that you can rub it in, take it orally, inject it. It became a kick: I
was allowed to work with the best of the best, and I made them even
better.

SPIEGEL: And how did you become the best in your
world?

Heredia: With precision. You want an example? Everyone talks about
epo. Epo is fashionable. But without adding iron, epo only works half as well.
That’s the kind of thing you have to know. There are oxygen carriers that make
epo work incredibly fast – they are actually better than epo alone. I call my
drug “Epo Boost.” I inject it and it releases many tiny oxygen molecules
throughout the body. In that way you increase the effect of epo by a factor of
ten

Heredia: With precision. You want an example? Everyone talks about
epo. Epo is fashionable. But without adding iron, epo only works half as well.
That’s the kind of thing you have to know. There are oxygen carriers that make
epo work incredibly fast – they are actually better than epo alone. I call my
drug “Epo Boost.” I inject it and it releases many tiny oxygen molecules
throughout the body. In that way you increase the effect of epo by a factor of
ten.

SPIEGEL: Do you have any other secrets?

Heredia: Oh yes, of
course. There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of
steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don’t excrete the
metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes
proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B
sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample.
Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that
prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute
miracle. I’ve created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the
doping testers.

SPIEGEL: What trainers have you worked together
with?

Heredia: Particularly with Trevor Graham.

SPIEGEL: Graham
has a lifetime ban because he purportedly helped Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery,
****** Gatlin and many others to cheat. Who else?

Heredia: With Winthrop
Graham, his cousin. With John Smith, Maurice Greene’s coach. With Raymond
Stewart, the Jamaican. With Dennis Mitchell ...

SPIEGEL: ... who won gold
in the 4 x 100 meters in 1992 and today is a coach. How did the collaboration
work?

Heredia: It’s a small world. It gets around who can provide you
with something how quickly and at what price, who is discreet. The coaches
approached me and asked if I could help them, and I said: yes. Then they gave me
money, $15,000 or thereabouts, we got a first shipment and then we did business.
At some point it led to one-on-one cooperation with the
athletes.

SPIEGEL: Was there a regimen of sorts?

Heredia: Yes. I
always combined several things. For example, I had one substance called
actovison that increased blood circulation – not detectable. That was good from
a health standpoint and even better from a competitive standpoint. Then we had
the growth factors IGF-1 and IGF-2. And epo. Epo increases the number of red
blood cells and thus the transportation of oxygen, which is the key for every
athlete: the athlete wants to recover quickly, keep the load at a constantly
high level and achieve a constant performance.

[R.H.]

SPIEGEL: Once again: a constant performance at the world-class level is
unthinkable without doping?

Heredia: Correct. 400 meters in 44 seconds?
Unthinkable. 71 meters with a discus? No way. You might be able to run 100
meters in 9.8 seconds once with a tailwind. But ten times a year under 10
seconds, in the rain or heat? Only with doping.

Part III: “If he
maintains he is clean, I can only answer that that is a lie.”

SPIEGEL:
Testosterone, growth hormone, epo – that was your combination?

Heredia:
Yes, with individual variations. And then amazing things are possible. In 2002
Jerome Young was ranked number 38 in the 400 meters. Then we began to work
together, and in 2003 he won almost every big race.

SPIEGEL: How were you
paid?

Heredia: I had an annual wage. For big wins I got a $40,000
bonus.

SPIEGEL: Your athletes have won 26 Olympic medals. How much money
did you earn?

Heredia: I can’t answer that due to the investigations. But
let’s put it this way: 16 to 18 successful athletes each year at between $15,000
and $20,000 per athlete. I had a good run. I had a good life.

SPIEGEL:
Did you live in the shadows of the sports world, where no one was allowed to see
you?

Heredia: No. I rarely traveled to the big events, but that was
because of jealousy: the Americans didn’t want me to work with the Jamaicans and
vice versa. But shadows? No. It was one big chain, from athletes to agents to
sponsors, and I was part of it. But everyone knew how the game worked. Everyone
wanted it to be this way, because everyone got rich off it.

SPIEGEL:
Which agents do you mean?

Heredia: The big marketers – Robert Wagner, for
example – who support the athletes and want to get them into top form because
they place the athletes at the track meetings.

The Austrian marketer
Wagner, founder of World Athletics Management, wrote last Thursday in an e-mail
to SPIEGEL, that he “never doped athletes” or “supported and promoted” doping.
And Angel Heredia, the chief witness, sat in an office in New York, an athletic
man in a black shirt, still in excellent shape, and wrote down names on a sheet
of paper. 41 track and field athletes, he said, were his clients, as well as
boxers, soccer players and cross-country skiers. His Jamaicans: Raymond Stewart,
Beverly McDonald, Brandon Simpson. From the Bahamas: Chandra Sturrup. A couple
of his Americans: Jerome Young, Antonio Pettigrew, Tim Montgomery, Duane Ross,
Michelle Collins, Marion Jones, C. J. Hunter, Ramon Clay, Dennis Mitchell,
Joshua J. Johnson, Randall Evans, ****** Gatlin, Maurice Greene. Some of those
named by Heredia have been caught doping. Others have admitted to doping, while
still others deny it.

SPIEGEL: Maurice Greene? The 100 meter superstar
Greene is one of the poster athletes of the Olympic movement; he swears he is
clean.

Heredia: The investigations are ongoing, but if he maintains he is
clean, I can only answer that that is a lie.

SPIEGEL: Can you be more
specific?

Heredia: I helped him. I made a schedule for him. I equipped
him.

SPIEGEL: Equipped?

Heredia: Yes, we worked together in 2003
and 2004.

SPIEGEL: Do you have receipts?

Heredia: Yes, I have a
$10,000 bank transfer receipt, for example.

SPIEGEL: Greene says he spent
that money on friends.

Heredia: I know that’s not true.

SPIEGEL:
What did Greene, who denies having doped, get from you?

Heredia: IGF-1
and IGF-2, epo and ATP – that stands for adenosine triphosphate, which
intensifies muscle contraction.

SPIEGEL: Undetectable for
testers?

Heredia: Undetectable. We’ve used ointments that do not leave
any traces and that enable a consistently high testosterone level in
athletes.

SPIEGEL: Is there doping at every level of
athletics?

Heredia: Yes, the only difference is the quality of the
doping. Athletes with little money use simple steroids and hope they don’t get
tested. The stars earn 50,000 dollars a month, not including starting bonuses
and shoe sponsorship contracts. The very best invest 100,000 dollars – I’ll then
build you a designer drug that can’t be detected.

SPIEGEL: Explain how
this works.

Heredia: Designer drugs are composed of several different
chemicals that trigger the desired reaction. At the end of the chain I change
one or two molecules in such a way that the entire structure is undetectable for
the doping testers.

SPIEGEL: The drug testers’ hunt of athletes
...

Heredia: ... is also a sport. A competition. Pure adrenaline. We have
to be one or two years ahead of them. We have to know which drug is entering
research where, which animals it is being used in, and where we can get it. And
we have to be familiar with the testers’ methods.

SPIEGEL: Can the
testers win this race?

Heredia: Theoretically yes. If all federations and
sponsors and managers and athletes and trainers were all in agreement, if they
were to invest all the money that the sport generates and if every athlete were
to be tested twice a week – but only then. What’s happening now is laughable.
It’s a token. They should save their money – or give it to me. I’ll give it to
the orphans of Mexico! There will be doping for as long as there is commercial
sports, performance-related shoe contracts and television

4. Teil: “Peak
performances without doping are a fairytale.”

SPIEGEL: So the idea that
sports are a fair competition within established rules actually died long
ago?

Heredia: Yes, of course. Unless we were to go back to ancient times.
Without television, without Adidas and Nike. It’s obvious: if you finish in
8th place at a big event, you get $5,000; if you finish first you get $100,000.
Athletes think about this. Then they think that everyone else dopes anyway, and
they are right. And you think athletes believe in morals and ideals? Peak
performances without doping are a fairytale, my friend.

SPIEGEL: Do you
advocate the authorization of doping?

Heredia: No, but I believe we
should authorize the use of epo, IGF and testosterone, as well as adrenaline and
epitestosterone – substances that the body produces itself. Simply for pragmatic
reasons, because it is impossible to detect them, and also because of the
fairness aspect.

SPIEGEL: Are you serious: fairness?

Heredia: Yes.
Take for example the most popular drug: epo. Epo changes the hemoglobin value,
and it is simply the case that people have different hemoglobin levels.
Authorizing the use of epo would enable the fairness and equality that
supposedly everyone wants. After all, there are genetic differences between
athletes.

SPIEGEL: Differences between living things are called nature.
You want to make all athletes the same through doping?

Heredia: Normal
athletes have a level of 3 nanograms of testosterone per milliliter of blood;
the sprinter Tim Montgomery has 3 nanograms, but Maurice Greene has 9 nanograms.
So what can Tim do? It isn’t doping with endogenous substances that’s unfair, it
is nature that’s unfair.

SPIEGEL: And what would you ban?

Heredia:
Everything else that can be dangerous. Amphetamines? Ban them. Steroids? Ban
them.

SPIEGEL: Are there still any clean disciplines?

Heredia:
Track and field, swimming, cross-country skiing and cycling can no longer be
saved. Golf? Not clean either. Soccer? Soccer players come to me and say they
have to be able to run up and down the touchline without becoming tired, and
they have to play every three days. Basketball players take fat burners –
amphetamines, ephedrin. Baseball? Haha. Steroids in pre-season, amphetamines
during the games. Even archers take downers so that their arm remains steady.
Everyone dopes.

SPIEGEL: Did you produce the drugs yourself, or did you
simply procure them?

Heredia: I didn’t have my own laboratory, I had…
let’s say access to labs in Mexico City. I purchased and procured the raw
materials ...

SPIEGEL: ... from where?

Heredia: Everywhere.
Australia, South Africa, Austria, Bulgaria, China. I got growth hormone from the
Swiss company Serono. It was never difficult to import it to Mexico, because the
laws aren’t that strict. You can easily buy it in pharmacies in Mexico. Whenever
a new drug was entering the test phase somewhere in the world, we knew about it
and we ordered it. Then I combined substances. Sometimes I produced a
gel.

SPIEGEL: Did you ever take the doping testers
seriously?

Heredia: No, we laughed at them. Today, of course, it is the
testers who are laughing.

SPIEGEL: How do you make a living
today?

Heredia: I still have a little bit of money. I’m studying again. I
want to become a pharmacist. That’s my dream, but I don’t know if I’ll find a
job, if I will be charged, if I will be deported, or where I’ll go. I don’t have
a life anymore. I walk around and make sure no one is following me. But compared
to Jerome Young I’m doing okay.

SPIEGEL: What is the 2003 world champion
doing today?

Heredia: He’s 31 years old, and he sits in a truck and
delivers bread. People say he broke the laws of the sport, but that’s not true:
it was exactly these rules that Jerome followed

Overigens vind ik hari wel een klootzak maar niet vanwege PED gebruik.

[Nosferatu187]

Arme Haritje word gewoon verkeerd begrepen, die mensen vroegen er allemaal om.

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Fucking goed artikel wie denkt dat topsporthelden dopingvrij zijn, wil zijn ogen gewoon niet opendoen.om de waarheid onder ogen te zien

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Arme Haritje word gewoon verkeerd begrepen, die mensen vroegen er allemaal om.

Waarom gaan ze ook met hun ledematen onder zijn stampers liggen?